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    Replaced fuel pump with a rebuilt one, but still doesn't
    draw fuel. Suspect push rod is worn, but how do you get it
    out? Top cap appears press fitted, with no way to pry it
    off. Have tried punching from below, only to dimple it! Have used plenty of penetrating oil. Any suggestions would be
    appreciated. Assuming I need a new rod, are there any
    sources, or do I need to get one machined? Thanks

  • #2
    I think that the timing cover will have to be removed. Another thing to consider is that there was 2 different lenth of push rods. The MPC lists for 59/60 C1VE-9400-A, ID by 2 groves on the end, which is 4.881 long and for 60, C3VY-9400-B which is 4.810 long. The fuel pump for 59 was B8S-9350-A and C0LE-9350-A for 60 which was replaced by the earlier B8S-A pump. There was no mention of replacing the C3VY-B rod with the C1VE-A however. There has been some concerns that when the pump was changed it wouldnt pump enough fuel for the engine. This may be due in part to a pump/rod lenth mismatch. There were 2 fuel pumps style used for both years. Use the search function to find the discussion on this. If you have any questions just ask!

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    • #3
      Ask Bart (bcomo) too, he has "been here before".


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      • #4
        fuel pump pushrod

        hi
        You have to punch a hole in the pressed in cap & pry it out , After removal pound back in shape & solder up the hole & repaint if desired
        I have been down this road & gave up after wasting time & money. a good electric fuel pump is the way to go . Instant starts as carb is immediatly primed & they are reliable. Be sure to follow installation instruction's as they push fuel instead of pulling, so pump must be level or below tank. The only other fix is a new pump cam & a MATCHING pushrod a tough combo to find & correctly ID & a lot of taking apart to boot.
        BEN
        Last edited by 65cobra03; November 6th, 2009, 09:18 PM. Reason: misspelled word

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        • #5
          Ben,

          I may go for the electric fuel pump. If it has to be installed at
          or below fuel tank level, where do you install? Not much room
          between tank and wheel well. Thanks

          Mike

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          • #6
            fuel pump

            hi
            I am still in northern ny The t- bird is in Fl I will check the exact location of electric pump & get back to you in a few week's i know it was tight but was not a big deal it's been three year's since i looked at it & have forgotten detail's of installation
            BEN

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            • #7
              I've seen people hide them under the windshield washer bag...


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              • #8
                Jon now that is a great idea that someone came up with, as I never thought of that one
                Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
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                • #9
                  Most electric fuel pumps 'push' rather than 'pull' the fuel - hence why they are best fitted back nearest the fuel tank.
                  A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by scumdog View Post
                    Most electric fuel pumps 'push' rather than 'pull' the fuel - hence why they are best fitted back nearest the fuel tank.
                    ...and for good reasons. Modern pumps are IN the gas tank. They produce high pressure which eliminates vapor lock (no suction side). I like the idea of putting the electric pump as far back as possible; in that trunk void, just behind the rear wheels is good. I use the electric supply wires to disable the car. Hot wire the ignition any way you want, it's not going anywhere without gas.
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                    • #11
                      Seriously consider an inline filter between the tank and the electric pump. Some manufacturers (Carter for example) will not warranty the pump unless you had a filter to keep crap out of it. Most of us think of the filter for protecting the carb, but it should protect your pump as well.

                      Dave, I love the idea of using the pump as a security device! Simple and effective!

                      John
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