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WOW Ray!!

I'm very impressed as to how well the "nose" job is going on your '59. I really thought after those initial pics there would be some cutting & sectioning going on!!


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There are some more pix posted that I took yesterday of the work. You cant tell much difference, but all the pulling is done. Now they will work on smoothing everything out. Jon, I also thought I was looking at panel replacements, and had them all lined up at Bird Nest if we needed them. But they say no, and they say it will look like it was never hit when they get done with it. We popped the hood and can see where a fan blade(s) hit the very top center of the radiator, gashing it and causing it to weep. It is not flowing out, just seeping out. It comes off and it will be checked out, tested and, if necessary, recored and sealed.

I have a fan shroud on Rose. It was suggested that I might want to take the opportunity to replace that 5 bladed fan with a new one in case it was knocked out of balance. It was also suggested that I put a 6 bladed fan on. Your thinking about this please. Do you think that with a fan shroud in place, I need to put a 6 bladed fan on? Here is the web page link again.

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Your poor baby looks like she is in pain,but it looks like you are getting her back in shape
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In college I had an '80 Monza. Freshman year I had an unfortunate encounter with the back of a Chevy pickup truck. Bumpers missed and the whole nose of the Monza was cleared out.

I put the car back together and left the fan with it's slightly bent blade. Months later I was driving and heard a loud THUNK! and the car started shaking severely. I pulled over and found the bent fan blade had let go and was now embedded in the battery. A new fan and new battery fixed it, but it was pretty scary. Could have went through the hood or hurt someone.

If it's bent at all, replace it.
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My '90 Mustang (351W, AOD w/shift kit and a stall, 430 gear) twisted the water pump shaft clean half-in-two. I was racing, winding it up, and that Art Carr shift kit slammed into second...
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Water was going everywhere and my composite hood was trashed. The fan went through the hood, came back down, and juggled around the radiator many times (it was going 6,000 rpm).

When it shifted, the crankshaft slowed down so fast, the stock fan acted like a flywheel (and actually drove the crank through the belt). I had been doing it so many times, I had no idea the water pump shaft could break. I learned my lesson and went to an electric fan, after buying a new radiator, water pump, and another $600 hood. - Dave
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Ray, you live in Texas and have a TBird. Hence: you cannot possibly have too good a cooling system!

So you have a shroud, 6 blade fan, and make sure your Temp gauge works correctly and you know what the readings are telling you (in terms of actual degrees).

You want to be up to a worst case scenario: 105 degrees out, you have been on the highway and now you get momentarily stuck in traffic. You want your car to stay acceptably cool. Or whatever your worst case scenario is.

As far as that dinged up fan you own now: don't even think of reinstalling it. This is a cheap item that can case all kinds of damage when you least expect it. If you really, really want to keep it, look in Hemmings and find a shop that does balancing and let them examine and adjust it. But you will have probably spent the price of a 6 blade when you have shipped it around, so . . .

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Ray, I'm not overly concerned about upgrading to a 6-blade fan- And I have the bigger 430cid engine.

I think adding the fan shroud is the best single ideal for anyone owning a Squarebird.

How much are the 6-blades selling for anyways?

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since it's somebody else's nickel, a good time to upgrade!
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Thanks for the input, guys! I think replacing that fan is a good idea. I have not looked at the prices of 6-bladed fans yet. I know some of you have them. What did they cost you? I understand you can get them from about any auto parts place.

Something else I am considering is going to an electric fan.. Anyone on the forum running one on a Squarebird? I have seen several pix of Squarebirds with electric fans on them. One reason I am thinking of going that route is because once Rose is healed, painted and the disc brakes/dual mc/booster done, she will probably be in a lot of slow moving parades. I know from my fellow members in my local Tbird club, that more than one of them have had to pull out of a slow moving parade because they were overheating. I understand with the right sized and rated electric fan, you will not have to worry about that happening.

So right now, I am betwixt and between whether staying with a five bladed fan that brung me, replace it with a six bladed fan, or going electric. If I do the latter, I might have to replace my alternator with a higher rated one. Mine is rated at 63Amps, as I recall.

Any additional comments, suggestions, are appreciated.
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has them (6 blade). Pretty reasonable as I recall. An electric fan works well, especially at slow speeds. A alternator upgrade is a good move. A ford 3-G (130amp) works well with a few minor modifications for mounting. Mike

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