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Old 04-27-2009, 07:17 PM
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The tool you used to put the heads on will not affect the oil pressure. the reality is the FE heads get far too much oil and most experienced people actually plug the oil passage way with a restrictor to reduce the amount of oil to the rockers (it is a chronic problem with FE engines that causes oil fouling on some plugs as well as smoke etc...). Even if you did not use a gasket you would get oil out of the passageway. Check for oil pressure and then get back to us. Hawkrod
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:01 PM
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Knew I should not have asked that question, I thought maybe if the heads were not torqued properly the oil may drain back into the block.

It was a long shot, but the way this thing delivers oil to the rocker arm assembly, seeping around bolts and whatnot, thought I would ask.

Anyway, there is not very much pressure being exerted from the filter housing sending unit hole, I would guess about 4 - 5 lbs, easy to stop with index finger.


So I am quessing it is the oil pump, either clogged at the inlet tube or the pump has went out


If it had to happen, glad it did so sitting in the drive and not cruising down the road.

I will post after installing new high flow pump, no since in trying to clean the old one if it is clogged.

Thanks again for everyones help !

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Without other mods such as oil restrictors, do not install a high volume pump. High pressure is okay but high volume is a disaster waiting to happen. Unfortunately the FE engine had some design issues that actually cause oil drain back issues and a high volume pump will flood the valve covers submersing the springs in oil and sometimes even empty the oil pan out (not likely but is a possibility). Most serious FE people actually recommend a stock pump for most applications. Also note that a low volume of oil out of the pump may not actually be a bad pump but it can easily be a plugged pickup or the pressure relief on the pump stuck open. Both of these issues are common enough to actually check first although the amount of work is exactly the same (I guess I am saying you might as well toss in a pump while your there!). It could also be that your only seeing a low volume because of slow cranking speed. Hawkrod
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OK, will install a stock pump, and as far as cleaning the old one, I stated that in the thread above, no since in the bother.

Ther car is turning over very fast, new batery.

Even if the low volume was caused by a low cranking speed the motor should have pumped enough oil to the assemblies when it was running for a minute or two before I shut it down.

Thanks for the info on the pump volume.
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Hawkrod I would like to thank you for taking your time, in resolving the problem Barry currently has.It is this technical expertise from our members that we all appreciate and I know Barry does. Great stuff
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:30 PM
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hi Barry

two things I would be curious to have you check for:

1) when you get to your old oil pump, see how clogged the screen on the bottom is. Take a photo if you can

2) the shafts on the rocker arm assemblies can also get clogged inside. You might take the cap out of an end and make sure there is not alot of sludge in there.

I had a high mileage motor and both items were all clogged up with disaster not far away.

Fyi: I was able to buy a stock FE oil pump in the local auto parts store. Took them 4 hours to get from their warehouse. Some people suggest getting a new shaft that goes up to the distributor at the same time.

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Old 04-28-2009, 06:33 PM
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YES, I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE HAWKRODS HELP, AND ALL OTHERS!!!!!


THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

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