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Old 01-12-2009, 05:13 PM
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The control valve is out with the ball stud in perfect shape.

Here is what worked for me.

First -- I used this ball joint puller. It fits perfectly in between the pitman arm and the ball stud. Maybe another of the same kind might work, but this one fits exactly.

ZDMAK Tools for $17.50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tie-R...81492691QQrdZ1

Their address is:
14204 Elmira Circle
Magalia, CA 95954

Tel 877-938-6657




Second thing -- I did not use an impact gun. I just used a wrench and a small hammer.

Remove the cotter pin from the ball stud nut, and remove the nut. Then, turn the nut around and screw it back onto the ball stud until it's just a little higher than the top of the stud.

Find another nut that will fit on the end of the puller screw. This gives more suface area on the tip of the puller.

Now slip the puller between the pitman arm and ball stud. The nut on the tool will be in contact with the nut on the ball stud.

Tighten down medium strength on the puller screw, but don't try to force it. Now tap, tap, tap (small woodpecker taps -- 3 times) on the end of the puller screw. Now tighten the puller screw another 1/2 turn. Tap, Tap, Tap again. Repeat this again, and in my case it just came off no problem on the third try -- total of 5 minute job.

The trick is to tighten the puller screw a little bit at a time, and then lightly tap, tap, tap on the puller screw in between.

I brought the Control Valve to Randy Meyer at Precision Products in San Antonio. He rebuilds Control Valves, Steering Boxes, and Power Steering pumps for Fords. http://precisionproductssteering.com/
He is a great guy.

While I was there, Randy degreased it, and completely disassembled it to check the wear on all of the inside parts. I was in luck, as the inside parts were in very good shape. So, for $90 I'll have a rebuilt control valve.

VERY IMPORTANT: Randy said that the control valve comes pre-greased for 12K miles. If and when you do grease it, DO NOT pump loads of grease into it --just 2 pumps is fine. If you put in too much grease, the load of grease in the ball socket will not allow the ball stud to slide to the right side. You will only have power steering to one side. Interesting.


Other IMPORTANT things:

1. Have a large flat pan under the control valve when you disconnect the hoses. Lots of rags too. Most all of the fluid (Type F Trans Fluid) will run out when you loosen the hoses.

2. Remove the roll pin from the clamp on the end of the control valve. The valve will not unscrew if you don't remove the roll pin.

3. Before you unscrew the valve, count the number of exposed threads on the drag link at the end of the valve. This will get the control valve back in the same spot when you replace it.

I'll do a post when I get to put the valve back in. Should be this weekend if the weather is not cold.
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Congrats on getting it apart and nice write up on the process. Wish you had done your first, would have saved me some trouble.
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Hindsight is always better.

I learned ALOT from your front end rebuild, and even though I didn't do it myself, I learned much more than in the shop manual. So, thanks for that Doug.
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Bart,

Do you have a item no for the ZDMAK puller you used? The ebay link doesn't display the item, beside the item number will be useful a year from now when someone refers back to this thread for help. Thanks for posting your knowledge in doing this front end work.
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Ken:

They don't have a part number stamped on the tool itself.

They call it "Tie Rod Tool Ford Chevrolet Chevy Toyota GM Dodge jeep"

I searched for "Tie Rod Tool Ford Chevy" on their On-Line store and found it again.


There is another one currently listed from them at

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tie-R...mZ170290317578

The important this is:
Tie Rod Puller - Jaw Opening size is 3/4 inch.
The opening from bolt to jaw = 1 -15/16

Sorry that I don't have more info.
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Thanks Bart, that should be enough info for anyone to find this tool n the future from any vendor.
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I got the puller tool last week after spending hours trying to tap the bolt out as described in the Ford manual. The tool worked like a charm as described in previous posts; in five minutes the stud popped out of the pitman arm. I'm very appreciative of the research done to find this tool. Thanks!

I dropped the entire steering linkage by also removing the outer tie rods from the spindles and the idler arm bracket 3 bolts that attach to the frame. I'm rebuilding everything and this appears to work extremely well, and it's fast to get it off the car and onto the bench.
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