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Be carefull with your years and part numbers. It is true that a 1959 Ford Fairlane used the same spindles (C0SS 3105 & 6) as Squarebirds (1958-1960 Thunderbirds).
1960 Fairlane spindles are different.

This is the rotor you want (CENTRIC Part #12161000 fits 1968 - 1969
FORD FAIRLANE, FALCON, MUSTANG, RANCHERO, TORINO,
MERCURY COMET, COUGAR, CYCLONE, MONTEGO )...

If you want a really nice program to convert your measurements, Josh Madison offers this zipped file, "CONVERT" as freeware CLICK HERE
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Dave, thank you for your answer but I'm still confused

I found the CENTRIC Part #12161000 in Rockauto online shop but I would prefer to order from Summit because shipping fee (international) and because they have other parts I need.

Unfortunally Summit does not have CENTRIC Part #12161000 but only Bendix... And there are two different parts number for the same application (this drive me crazy). Also Rockauto list them as compatible spare for 1968 mustang.... So the question is: can I use one of the Bendix rotor with scarebird brackets?

This is the part PRT1018 data

Brand: Bendix Brakes
Manufacturer's Part Number: PRT1018
Part Type: Brake Rotors
Product Line: Bendix Brakes Global Brake Rotors
Summit Racing Part Number: BEN-PRT1018


UPC: 18575205409
Intended for Street Use: Yes
For Use with Stock Calipers: Yes
Rotor Construction: Vented
Rotor Style: Solid surface
Rotor Outside Diameter (in): 11.297 in.
Rotor Thickness (in): 0.935 in.
Rotor Material: Iron
Rotor Finish: Natural
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Five 1/2 in. x 20 studs included.

This is the part PRT1019 data:

Brand: Bendix Brakes
Manufacturer's Part Number: PRT1019
Part Type: Brake Rotors
Product Line: Bendix Brakes Global Brake Rotors
Summit Racing Part Number: BEN-PRT1019


UPC: 18575205416
Intended for Street Use: Yes
For Use with Stock Calipers: Yes
Rotor Construction: Vented
Rotor Style: Solid surface
Rotor Outside Diameter (in): 11.297 in.
Rotor Thickness (in): 0.940 in.
Rotor Material: Iron
Rotor Finish: Natural
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Five 1/2 in. x 20 studs included.

PRT1019 has the same Tickness of the Centric but as you can see in the pictures I posted before there is a difference in the total thickness between PRT1019 and PRT1018...Thanks.
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According to the Bendix Catalog their part #PRT1018 cross references to the Centric 12161000.
http://www.bendixcatalog.com/PartDet...=Brake%20Rotor

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Good work, John. I don't know why Summit didn't look that up for a paying customer. There are at least six brands that make this rotor because millions were used on Ford and Lincoln/Mercury cars.
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According to the Bendix Catalog their part #PRT1018 cross references to the Centric 12161000.
http://www.bendixcatalog.com/PartDet...=Brake%20Rotor

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Thank you so much John! I really appreciate!

Another question.... Anyone has never tried just a Master Cylinder upgrade keeping the original K/H underdash booster? I mean it seems to be a good way to make a cheap and easy conversion to dual (and eventually disc) brake system. Am I wrong?

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You can change the master cylinder to a dual for drum brakes but the under dash booster will never work for disc brakes. It's woefully inadequate.

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I see.. Thank you. So this is why nobody already did it
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To amplify on what John said regarding the KH under dash unit, here is what Howard Prout and I both did with ours. When we went through our disc brake conversion we both decided to leave the KH unit in place rather than taking it out. As John said, it is inadequate regarding the disc brake conversion, but it has not caused either one of us any problems by leaving it in place.
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Hi Roberto, I am sure there are people who have done the conversion from single to dual MC. I do not see why you cannot do it, but I would hope others with a lot more experience than I have will chip in and comment. I do not know what problems might be encountered by just changing out the single MC to a dual MC, without adding a power booster between it and the firewall. Others might know. For that matter you probably could also add the power booster to it if you wanted to, without doing the disc brake conversion. If you were thinking of going disc brakes, you would be that further ahead. However, those with a lot more smarts than I have need to comment about this to help you. As I said, Howard and I (and I think others) opted to leave our KH unit in place rather than mess with taking it out of there. It has caused us no problems. As John said you CAN change the single MC out for a Dual MC. Without going to disc brakes.
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New boosters come with their own reservoir and check valve. That means the original tank and under-dash booster may be removed, provided you don't have vacuum wipers (which don't work worth spit, either).

When Howard was troubleshooting his system he disconnected his treadle-vac booster and it made no difference. That made sense to me because they require foot pressure to open the valve, but the output assistance is light. Notice Ford (and Chevy) dropped this system and never went back. Yep, my cousin's '57 Bel Air has one and it doesn't help, either. - Dave
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