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Old 08-28-2007, 10:39 AM
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I have a single rubber hose coming off of a fitting in the stock location on the intake manifold. A T-fitting in the hose splits off to go to the fuel/vacuum pump; another t-fitting farther down the hose splits off to go to the brake vacuum booster on one side and the pcv valve on the other.
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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Hello,

The pcv line is installed on it's own into the intake manifold. The vacuum suction created through the combustion process draws the blowby gases back into the engine. The pcv valve flows in one direction only, similar to a check valve. If there is clearance for a carb spacer, that is what I would install. The pcv valve could be in backwards, too. Good Luck



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Old 08-29-2007, 01:02 AM
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That's how the original Ford kit came. It was installed on mine in the early 70's when pops put the hi-po 390 in there.
Ftg @ Rr of Int/manif w/90 deg bend. then a 3/8 hi pres hose (not fuel line) so it won't collaps, then pcv to 3/8 fitting at the rear of the carb spacer plate (part of kit).
Part 2 is an oil cap with a 1/2" outlet. There was a fitting popped into the side of the air filter hsg with a 1/2 inl. Aprox 1 ft of hose connecting them. Walla . . . Poss crank case ventalation. When I installed the 62 air cleaner, I moved the hose ftg to the under side out of sight.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:07 AM
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Do you suppose that installing the oil cap breather with the hose to the air cleaner would take care of my problems? At least then the extra gases would go back into the engine rather than breathing out all over everywhere....
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Well, that's the bandaid to find out where all this blowby is coming from. Do you have the pcv backwards? That would sure do it.
Thats too goofy. no smoke out of the exh but excessive blowby??!!! Something is bass ackwards somewhere
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Old 08-31-2007, 12:33 AM
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I really don't think it's in there backwards... the larger end is towards the crankcase and the smaller end is towards the vacuum source.

Really, it is strange. It demonstrates no other unhappy symptoms but the blowby. I'm using the valve labelled pcv1134 sold at AUtozone; it's the one they say to use for '61 birds and most other early Fords.

Any other ideas? Things to try?
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Something to do with the intake and how the oil from the rocker arms drain. I remember some wierd thing FE motors were notorious for.
I'll check with a couple of my old time Ford buddies. Might be 1st part of next week until I get ahold of them. If there's no smoke in the exhaust, it's a top end oiling problem.

If you're running the pcv, you also need to run the breather into the air cleaner. That's not the fix for your problem, but it will put the excess back into the engine.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:46 AM
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Peeeot:

Can you take a couple of photos of how it's hooked up. It might help someone to be able to spot something.

Where do you have the large end of the PVC valve going to?
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Old 08-31-2007, 04:46 PM
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A top end oiling problem? Very interesting!! I know it has those strange oil baffles under the rocker shaft mounts. I had to buy them used because mine were missing. I didn't install the large central baffle; everyone told me it wasn't needed.

I checked the pcv for suction at idle earlier. It was sucking hard! As soon as I pulled the valve out blow by gasses started pouring out of the hose I had pulled the valve from. Like I said, though, nothing come out the breather with the valve installed and the car idling in park.

Here are some pictures of my setup.

This one shows the manifold connection and the first t-fitting, which goes to the fuel pump.
http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00485276.jpg

This one shows the hose at the other t-junction. The right split goes to the brake booster. You can also see the valve and my "custom" pcv adaptor. It's just copper tube with a plastic cap sealed with silicone and a brass hose fitting threaded into a hole in the copper tube. The fitting sticks into the tube maybe a half inch or so.
http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00485277.jpg

Here's another view of the valve. Big end is at the bottom.
http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00485278.jpg
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:41 PM
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...and in drive with the brake on the blow-by billows out from the hood scoop and breather tube. Hmm.

peeeot, how are you making out with seating the rings ?

I am not sure if this thread is your log of engine modifications or what ?

I am anxious to read what you discover.

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