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Old 12-06-2017, 07:56 PM
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Wondering if anyone knows where to get a fuel filter for the 352 1960 TBird. Have an issue at around 60mph where it sometimes seems to stop getting gas. Since I just got the car, figured I'd start with the fuel filter.
Also seems that the 2 back of the 4 barrels in the carburator are very dry. If anyone has any suggestions on that. Thanks!!!!
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:19 PM
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New owner alert ��.
Wondering if anyone knows where to get a fuel filter for the 352 1960 TBird. Have an issue at around 60mph where it sometimes seems to stop getting gas. Since I just got the car, figured I'd start with the fuel filter.
Also seems that the 2 back of the 4 barrels in the carburator are very dry. If anyone has any suggestions on that. Thanks!!!!
Unfortunately the fuel filter that screws into the carburetor is not available new. However there are usually a few NORS ones on Ebay like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-i...1ZOUr7&vxp=mtr

Prices can vary so I would shop around.

As for the carburetor issue if the rear bowls are dry then most likely the rear needle valve is stuck closed. It could also be the rear diaphragm that's bad. I would recommend purchasing a rebuild kit and redoing the entire carburetor if you plan on keeping it original. You can get the kit from Rockauto as well as other auto stores. We get a 5% discount on anything you order from Rockauto.

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Old 12-06-2017, 08:27 PM
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First of all - Welcome !!!

Now the bad news - as far as I know the fuel filter for the Ford 4100 carb used on the 352 (and probably others) is not available new any longer. Probably could find a NOS one on the big auction site. I believe the filters only have screens in them and I've had pretty good luck cleaning them by using carb cleaner - just reverse the flow when cleaning.

Here is a link to the replacements (also no longer manufactured) but gives you options when looking for a NOS replacement.
http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_g...uel_filter.htm

I have purchased a brass adapter from the plumbing section of the home center that allows you to use the filter designed for the 430 on the 4100 carb (which is still available). Works OK but the adapter does not have the tapered end as on the original filter so I used teflon tape to make sure it sealed at the carb. Later on I changed carbs so that became a non issue.

Your fuel problem sounds like the troubles I see when the fuel pump is failing. The main seal gets a tiny crack then eventually leaves you stranded. All the fuel pumps I've bought lately only seem to last about 2-3 years (although the previous one lasted only a week and had the wrong size fuel ports).




Good luck - let us know what you find.
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Are these the right replacement?
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/dyn...0030b&ukey=697

https://www.stockwiseauto.com/wix-33...f473809f16823&

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First of all - Welcome !!!

Now the bad news - as far as I know the fuel filter for the Ford 4100 carb used on the 352 (and probably others) is not available new any longer. Probably could find a NOS one on the big auction site. I believe the filters only have screens in them and I've had pretty good luck cleaning them by using carb cleaner - just reverse the flow when cleaning.

Here is a link to the replacements (also no longer manufactured) but gives you options when looking for a NOS replacement.
http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_g...uel_filter.htm

I have purchased a brass adapter from the plumbing section of the home center that allows you to use the filter designed for the 430 on the 4100 carb (which is still available). Works OK but the adapter does not have the tapered end as on the original filter so I used teflon tape to make sure it sealed at the carb. Later on I changed carbs so that became a non issue.

Your fuel problem sounds like the troubles I see when the fuel pump is failing. The main seal gets a tiny crack then eventually leaves you stranded. All the fuel pumps I've bought lately only seem to last about 2-3 years (although the previous one lasted only a week and had the wrong size fuel ports).




Good luck - let us know what you find.
Eric
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The one from the Bird Nest is the correct 352 replacement filter. The other one is for a 430 engine and screws into the fuel pump. It is not correct.

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So the bird nest is the correct one that screws from the fuel line from the pump and into the carburetor? SO glad I asked!!! Thank you for the help. I will probably look into rebuilding the carburetor and I think it may need a fuel pump. Happy Holidays
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So the bird nest is the correct one that screws from the fuel line from the pump and into the carburetor? SO glad I asked!!!
That's correct. 1960 was the only year that had the fuel filter screw into the carburetor. You're fortunate to have the original carburetor still in place. Usually over the years they've been replaced. That's a rare piece indeed.

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These are the size screw in fuel filters that I have come across that have been used on the 4100.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCREW-IN-X-...VYJH2w&vxp=mtr

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BF879-Screw...9TUYOr&vxp=mtr

Of course, this does not equate to them being correct for 1960.
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Just wanted to add to my above post as it reads a little confusing.

The links show the SHAPE of the 4100 fuel filter. The size thread would have to be measured.

This one is 1/2"
http://www.carburetor-parts.com/Auto...12_p_4459.html

And some of the rebuild kits for the 4100:

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...highlight=4100
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:56 AM
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The links show the SHAPE of the 4100 fuel filter. The size thread would have to be measured.

This one is 1/2"
That filter probably won't work on the 1960 carburetor. It has a larger inlet. Also the correct filter has a female inlet as you can see by the picture.

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