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The term, "Muscle Car" sure has a lot of elbow room...

I think of the Shelby Cobra, a little aluminum body with a 427 Ford engine... NOT a muscle car. It's a sports car on mega-steroids.

I think of muscle cars of the '60's and I think of the bias ply tires they wore. Many had drum brakes. Rarely, were they supercharged from the factory. And, just because they didn't have a huge engine meant little because the 340 Dart (Duster, Demon, etc.) ran rings around the Road Runner.

427 Corvette was the one to catch but they had independent suspension with 'dog bone' shafts that wasn't made for 1/4-mile.

Royal Pontiac (Royal Oak, MI) started it in the Detroit area. They had a '61 Catalina that someone drilled huge holes all over called, "Swiss Cheese," with a 421. The 421 Super Duty engine came out later. As soon as Chevrolet realized what Pontiac was 'getting away with' they went right to the 396 and 427. Chrysler asked no permission and offered two monsters, the 426 Hemi and 440 wedge. Street racers bought them like hotcakes. Not to be outdone, Ford had a Cyclone and Caliente that was a monster. Full-size Fords wore 390 as standard fare with 427 as an option. I don't consider the 460 as a race engine because Ford de-tuned it, holding back untold HP. - Dave
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Scott I would agree with you on our Thunderbirds and Dave pretty much summed it up. The 340 Duster owner won more than he lost when challenged to a drag. My favorite was the GTX now that could dance
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Talking Meanwhile in Australia....

Down here in OZ, in my humble opinion the true "full size" muscle cars were kicked off by Ford in 1967 with their XR Falcon GT and again in my opinion, the book closed with the legendary 1971 XY Falcon GTHO Phase 3. There will be arguments about others, but the XY Phase 3 GTHO is the epitome of a muscle car, and very very collectable now. In the mid 2000's some of them reached a staggering $600K in value, but they have come back to earth now, albeit still very expensive.

GM Holden produced Monaro's in the same era, followed up by the smaller Torana's but nothing compared to the Ford. Let the arguments begin!
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Down here in OZ, in my humble opinion the true "full size" muscle cars were kicked off by Ford in 1967 with their XR Falcon GT and again in my opinion, the book closed with the legendary 1971 XY Falcon GTHO Phase 3. There will be arguments about others, but the XY Phase 3 GTHO is the epitome of a muscle car, and very very collectable now. In the mid 2000's some of them reached a staggering $600K in value, but they have come back to earth now, albeit still very expensive.

GM Holden produced Monaro's in the same era, followed up by the smaller Torana's but nothing compared to the Ford. Let the arguments begin!
Lol. You people had your own brand of cars down under, personally, and I've owned a ton of Ford, non of those names sound even a little bit familiar!!! We had Falcons, never knew there was a GT, just the Sprint!
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Lol. You people had your own brand of cars down under, personally, and I've owned a ton of Ford, non of those names sound even a little bit familiar!!!...
That's because you are sheltered from Ford products worldwide. What do you think this popular car is? (Hint: The star in the grille is significant)...




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Lol. You people had your own brand of cars down under, personally, and I've owned a ton of Ford, non of those names sound even a little bit familiar!!! We had Falcons, never knew there was a GT, just the Sprint!
No doubt , they got a lot of cool V8 sedans we never got. Like this thing..........

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Is it a Meteor with a flathead?
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Is it an early Starliner also with a flathead?
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1955 Meteor, 292 Y Block Star Model.. Kenn
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1955 Meteor, 292 Y Block Star Model.. Kenn
My thoughts exactly
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