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Old 12-04-2016, 02:52 PM
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Those spot welds are everywhere ;-). Makes good sense to get a good cutter to remove them.

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Old 12-04-2016, 03:12 PM
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I have tried quite a few types and after seeing how clean ~keith's spot weld holes always seemed to look, I asked him what he used and he recommended Blair Premium Spotweld Cutters.

They are not inexpensive, but with lubrication they seem to cut faster and last longer than anything else I have tried.
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Old 12-04-2016, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by simplyconnected View Post
That's what Randy said, 'No fender adjustment bolts'.

Every fender I've ever seen had adjustment bolts (and shims) at the top and bottom. SBs may be different so I'm here to learn. How does the fender apron attach to the fender? Bolts, or no bolts? In your RH picture, I can't tell which way is the front of the car although you say the crack is in the front. - Dave
Dave, no bolts, and you're correct, that crack is below the front side of the door. The passenger side is seamless there, like the squarebird was designed after an AMT model car kit with opening doors. I'm thinking my repair was done sometime in the 60's or 70's, looks pretty professional save for the weld seam. I'm guessing the front of the fender apron was damaged causing the need for the weld there.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:02 PM
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Well, I learned something here. That is a completely different chassis then my 64, at least in the areas shown in those pictures. It's almost like you can mount the engine in the trunk and spin the interior around 180 degrees.
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Old 12-04-2016, 11:41 PM
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Thank you everyone, for clarifying exactly what Randy said (and I didn't believe but now I do).

After seeing the proof, I still say that this is not an assembly scheme that Ford used on all the other cars, before or since. There are many differences that were dropped when the T-bird body was finally assembled in Wixom like the rear coil spring setup that only lasted for the '58 model year and the front dual shock absorber, in preparation for air suspension. Another anomaly I never understood was, using two brake hoses on each '58 front brake. Nobody does that.

Body repair must have been extremely expensive in the aftermarket for this car. Most collisions involve front end body parts but these are all welded together.

I know how 'stationary' body parts are assembled, clamped and welded, usually in table-fixtures. I'd like to see the fixtures Budd used. See the irregularly spaced the spot welds on the door-to-pillar hem line? It was spot welded by hand, not in an automatic spot welding fixture. Those spot weld guns had to have deep and long throats using double-piston retract cylinders, huge transformers and heavy counterbalances. This was bull work in the summer time heat. - Dave
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:10 PM
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Thanks for helping make clearer .
back to my initial question, How do you or what do You do, To clean up back in there?.............all input much appreciated, I'm just look to preserve it not make new!
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:01 PM
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I would say some sort of media blasting is what you would be looking at.
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