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Old 12-03-2016, 01:11 AM
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Do the fenders bolt on or weld ?
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Would you have to cut it out?
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Old 12-03-2016, 04:40 AM
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Randy:
Our Birds are pretty much spot welded together on all of the body parts. There are a few removable panels around the front and rear windows that are bolted, along with the doors, trunk and hood also being bolted. The TBird shops sell patch panels for the fenders and doors that can be welded in. I have pics of my car where the front and rear 1/4 panels were replaced. Email me if you want me to send them.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:02 PM
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Thank you Nyles !
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The front fenders are bolted on. The rear fenders are part of the body.
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Old 12-03-2016, 11:50 PM
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The front fenders are bolted on. The rear fenders are part of the body.
That's what I said but I don't have a Squarebird so I don't really know, and that's what started my discussion with Randy.

Steve, do you really know or are you comparing with the '66 'bird?

I know both fenders are welded to the front fascia panel (as one piece) on a Square. I told Randy that the front fenders should both come off as a 'front end clip'. I might be all wrong but that's how most Ford cars are assembled... Then it dawned on me...

The Squarebird body shop was not at Ford, it was at Budd. Ford Wixom started T-bird production in the Paint Shop. In fact, Squarebird engineering was done at Budd too. Ford's Body Engineering simply signed off on all the drawings and approved them for 'build'. That's the reason why the '58 SB has that 'unique' rear coil suspension.

Bottom line: The parts manuals show all the individual stampings but... It may well be that Budd welded the fenders in place just like the quarter panels. (But I don't know for sure.) - Dave
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:05 AM
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I've had my '60 since 1985 and it's mostly sat. Shortly after purchasing it, I realized it had been in a front end wreck. The front bumper had a faded '1958' crayon mark (I'm assuming from a junkyard), and I noticed this weld seam on the inner fender apron by the evaporator. The other pic shows a slight split in the metal below the bottom front corner of the door, like the weld or body putty split. I'm no bodyman, but I don't see how they could have unbolted this fender and bolted a new one on. There's no seam below the door. Or fender bolts that I could find. Shoot, gotta resize the pics
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...I don't see how they could have unbolted this fender and bolted a new one on. There's no seam below the door. Or fender bolts that I could find...
That's what Randy said, 'No fender adjustment bolts'.

Every fender I've ever seen had adjustment bolts (and shims) at the top and bottom. SBs may be different so I'm here to learn. How does the fender apron attach to the fender? Bolts, or no bolts? In your RH picture, I can't tell which way is the front of the car although you say the crack is in the front. - Dave
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Spotwelds hold the fender on. Many at the back that are visible when the door is opened, and many along the upper flange to attach it to the apron. Welds at the front where it meets the header panel and welds at the rocker panel where the crack is shown in a previous photo. Depending on your spot weld removal tool, you can spend several hours with them. There are no adjustments after the fender is installed. Carl
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That's what I said but I don't have a Squarebird so I don't really know, and that's what started my discussion with Randy.

Steve, do you really know or are you comparing with the '66 'bird?

I know both fenders are welded to the front fascia panel (as one piece) on a Square. I told Randy that the front fenders should both come off as a 'front end clip'. I might be all wrong but that's how most Ford cars are assembled... Then it dawned on me...

The Squarebird body shop was not at Ford, it was at Budd. Ford Wixom started T-bird production in the Paint Shop. In fact, Squarebird engineering was done at Budd too. Ford's Body Engineering simply signed off on all the drawings and approved them for 'build'. That's the reason why the '58 SB has that 'unique' rear coil suspension.

Bottom line: The parts manuals show all the individual stampings but... It may well be that Budd welded the fenders in place just like the quarter panels. (But I don't know for sure.) - Dave
You're probably right then. I thought 58-64 were basically the same chassis.
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Here are a few pics of the front fender spot welds.
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