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No idea how old the shocks are on my bird, but i´m not too happy with the ride quality. I expected at least a more floating ride, but instead its quite stiff. Is this normal for a 58 bird, or will other shocks help? Any brand/type which will increase the comfort?
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Franco: The 58 had coil springs ( made by Budd one year only 58 and then went to leaf springs ) Apparently Ford approved this for production for that year but quickly went to leaf springs in 59 and subsequent models. The 58 also has rear trailing arm suspension/ with a pan hard bar ( sway )
The ride in my wife's 58 is quite smooth and not the " stiffness " that you are indicating. Remember that coils being made of metal are now some 45+ years old and get brittle / crack after all that load bearing use. Have you had them checked and also your front shocks?
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Thanks for the answer Dan.
Is there any info available regarding the standard ride height? The rear springs still have some color markings on the black paint, so it looks that they have been replaced during the Restoration in 2012.
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Franco: The height from the garage floor to the back fin on our 58 is 34" and the height from the garage floor to the roofline is 52.5"
Conversely the height from the garage floor to the back fin on our 60 is 36" and the height from the garage floor to the roofline is 54"
Coil springs vs leaf springs...
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Franco: Check out Automotive Mileposts website for specs.

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Thanks for the info Dan, will have a look at that site.
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Didn´t check the site yet, but measured the height of the fin at the rear wheel. It measures 38". I presume that you also measured at the wheel?
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Franco: Yes measured at the wheel as well. What is your measurement from the ground to your roofline?
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A little late reply, but the measurement from the ground to the roof line is 54", the same as your 60 bird, but 2" higher then your 58.
The rear springs are quite new and i think that they installed longer springs, most probably to clear the chassis from the immense traffic bumps we have overhere.
I don´t know a thing about springs, but would it be possible to get "softer" springs, to make the ride more comfortable?
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Ride quality comes from shock absorbers. Springs suspend the body while shocks and struts dampen the bounce. If you want a stiff ride, buy stiff shocks. Most shocks for classic cars at too mushy for my liking. - Dave
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