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I got looking at the diagrams a little closer and it looks like the relay in question is normally closed where I thought it was normally ope. So I wired it the other way and then the rear 4 ways work ( no front flashers ) but they can not be turned off, agh.

Maybe ill just wire up my spare orange strobe with a cigarette lighter plug to put in the back window if ever required haha
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Grrr, so I bypassed the voltage regulator by supplying 12v directly to the field terminal ( just for a few seconds ) on the alternator and my battery voltage came up to 15v so I thought it was the regulator. I replaced that (only 30$ ) and its still not charging unless I jump the F terminal and still dies when I disconnect the battery, looking for suggestions what to try next?

I am also getting 12v on all 3 legs of the regulator, ignition, field & battery so the new regulator is working
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It can only be three things; the alternator, voltage regulator or wiring. If you are getting 15V when you jump the regulator then it seems like your alternator is good. Since you replaced the regulator that leaves the wiring. Check it both to the alternator and where it goes through the firewall. Use the schematics in the TRL or shop manual to trace the colors.

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Well I fixed it, the morons who the PO had do the motor work connectes the alternator wrong, the field and gnd wires were reversed at the alternator, I caught on to it when chasing where the wires go, field should be white at the alt, and gnd was black-red.

Thanks for the reply jopizz I just saw it when I came to post this

I'm glad I bought the digital manual back at the beginning
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Well I fixed it, the morons who the PO had do the motor work connectes the alternator wrong, the field and gnd wires were reversed at the alternator, I caught on to it when chasing where the wires go, field should be white at the alt, and gnd was black-red.

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At least it was an easy fix. Unfortunately you spent money on a new regulator. If you can't bring it back you have a good spare to keep with you anyway.

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What is the 4th terminal on the regulator for? Ive seen diagrams online that show something about a dash light? What does that light indicate? Can it be added to my car?



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At least it was an easy fix. Unfortunately you spent money on a new regulator. If you can't bring it back you have a good spare to keep with you anyway.

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I am going to leave the new one installed but will keep the old one in the parts box because I'm not sure if it is dead and a spare of things never hurts
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The "I" terminal wasn't used on cars with ammeters like yours but I don't see any reason why you can't connect a light to it. Here's the schematic from a 1963 Thunderbird showing how it's wired.

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When does the light come on?

That diagram looks like its wired to the ignition wire?

On mine would it just go from the unused terminal to gnd? Is the resistor required?
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The light would come on when you turn the key to the ON position and go off when the car starts and begins charging. You need 12V on both sides of the light to turn the light off which is why one side is connected to the ignition switch. Just connecting a light to the I terminal won't work. Normally the alternator won't start charging if it doesn't see 12V through the light to the Field terminal which is why the resistor is used. If the light burns out it will still charge. How it's charges without using the idiot light on 64-66 Thunderbirds is a good question. Maybe Dave can chime in on that.

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