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Ugh stupid car, I don't want to put a ton of money into it. Anyone want to buy it lol
As you are finding out owning a classic car is not for someone on a limited budget. Even if you do all the work yourself the costs can quickly exceed the value of the car. To me owning a classic car is like gambling. If you can't afford to lose money then don't do it.

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As you are finding out owning a classic car is not for someone on a limited budget. Even if you do all the work yourself the costs can quickly exceed the value of the car. To me owning a classic car is like gambling. If you can't afford to lose money then don't do it.

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A little bit of A and a whole lot of B, I can spend some money on it but I do not want to spend more than it will ever be worth ( mechanically or cosmetically ), its not something I intend to keep forever its a stepping stone
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If it is the alternator a guy from work who restores cars as a side business suggested a single wire gm alternator does anyone have insight on this?

Or what 3 wire one from the rockauto website I should be looking at, they range from 31-81$

I will be doing trouble shooting on the weekend to figure out what it is for sure before doing anything
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Single wire alternators were never used in production cars. People think, because there is only one wire, it must be easy enough where no knowledge of electricity is required.

The problem with that is, the one-wire won't charge until rpm's are well above idle speeds. That defeats the whole purpose of an alternator. You want it to charge whenever the engine is running.

So, what do production cars use? Three wires: One is a ground, another feeds the battery and the third wire comes from your GEN light to 'sense' the key is ON. When the key is off, the alt turns off so the internal voltage regulator won't drain your battery.

Personally, I think one-wire alternators belong on hot rods. They work, but not as you would expect. - Dave
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Ok thats good to know Dave, Thank you
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So I got a few min the the garage today before I had to go checkout and make a deal on a new boat ( a '18.5 1979 surf master trihull bow rider with a 140 mercruiser i/o, sold our little fishing boat yesterday ). Hooked up my multimeter between the battery and the chassis and pulled every fuse until the amp draw stopped, its the emergency warning 20A, next is find out where in the circuit is causing this particular problem.
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So I got a few min the the garage today before I had to go checkout and make a deal on a new boat ( a '18.5 1979 surf master trihull bow rider with a 140 mercruiser i/o, sold our little fishing boat yesterday ). Hooked up my multimeter between the battery and the chassis and pulled every fuse until the amp draw stopped, its the emergency warning 20A, next is find out where in the circuit is causing this particular problem.
There are two relays in the trunk just to the right of your sequential signal light package . These are most likely gone bad . Also, the switch for these relays in the overhead console for the emergency flasher lights is worn out or in the ' on ' position and the light indicator is burnt out .

ps. I have these relays if interested. Previous Bird owner never picked up after I purchased them .
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I have replaced those relays with 3 Bosch style relays in the early stages of this thread. So it shouldn't be that, not sure if its the flasher relays or brake relay that also buzz when I hit the brakes maybe need a diode in there somewhere or something..

The bulb works it flashes with the hazards. And the switch works to turn the hazards on and off.

Hopefully get to look at it today some more
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So I tried to find an obvious leak in the power steering system but didn't have any luck with the car on the ground so I just topped up the pump res and will deal with it later.

Then I started the car and after it ran for a minute or two disconnected the battery, it instantly died, any suggestions on how to test the alternator/regulator?

I also found out what relay is causing the issue with my 4ways/brake/turn buzzing with the help of my daughter, she worked the brake pedal while i was in the trunk ( car was off just key in the acc position )

Its the stop light relay, with it disconnected the front 4 ways work, the brake and turns also both work, just the rear 4 ways are disabled, now I at least have somewhere to work from.
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So I tried to find an obvious leak in the power steering system but didn't have any luck with the car on the ground so I just topped up the pump res and will deal with it later.

Then I started the car and after it ran for a minute or two disconnected the battery, it instantly died, any suggestions on how to test the alternator/regulator?

I also found out what relay is causing the issue with my 4ways/brake/turn buzzing with the help of my daughter, she worked the brake pedal while i was in the trunk ( car was off just key in the acc position )

Its the stop light relay, with it connected the front 4 ways work, the brake and turns also both work, just the rear 4 ways are disabled, now I at least have somewhere to work from.

On our '66 , if I activate the four way emergency lights, front and rear flash on and off like they should . If I step on the brake, the emergency lights stop flashing . When I release the brake, they start right up again . Hope this helps . BTW, ours is a convertible so do not have the two extra relays in the trunk .
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