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Old 06-06-2016, 01:27 PM
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I finally got my 59 T-bird started and running this weekend. It may be the first time it ran in the last 24 years (since that's the last tags on the license plates). So excited, I just had to share it.
Next I need a new fuel tank, fuel line, tranny seal, fix the exhaust and a broken brake line. Oh boy, now it's getting fun.
I don't post much but I just had to share it and thank everyone else for posting and sharing their ingenuity and experience.

List of work I've done so far:
Changed the oil and filter
New carb
New fuel pump
Rebuilt the starter
New battery
Verified distributor position and lastly found that the last owner had all the spark plug wires plugged into the wrong plugs.

Happy days and a ton more work ahead before it's road worthy.
Thanks for reading.

Dan.
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Old 06-06-2016, 02:18 PM
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Dan,

Sounds familiar - I've rescued a few too.

Check the coupon from Rock Auto for the gas tank - don't think you have to be a member to see it ( http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...ad.php?t=20489 )

Here's a link to the gas tank replacement to give you a heads up on what you're in for. Actually not bad at all and the new ones fit perfectly. Don't waste your time trying to clean or boil out the old one.

http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_g...eplacement.htm

Just out of curiosity - what carb did you use? (Ford 4100, Carter, Edelbrock?)

Congrats on the hard work paying off and we'll look forward to more good news.

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Old 06-06-2016, 03:10 PM
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Hi Eric,
I went with the Edelbrock 600cfm carb. As much as I'm trying to do everything on a low budget, I wanted a new carb. Thanks for the good advice to avoid trying to clean my old tank. I definitely plan to get the new tank from Rockauto as well since my fuel line was full of rust. When I started it, I used a bottle of gas near the fuel pump pickup.
Because of that rust, I'm also going to replace the entire fuel line. I'm researching that metal roll of fuel line so I can make my own. The plan is to go hard line in order to eliminate any rubber in the system in order to handle today's gas.
Goodness, that engine sounded good. It sure drank that little 16 ounce bottle of gas quick too.
Thanks for the discount code however I think I still have an active one myself from ordering parts through them.
I'll keep posting with progress.
Thanks again.
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Old 06-06-2016, 03:29 PM
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You are going to need rubber line from the metal line into the fuel pump. There is too much vibration and movement by the engine to go straight metal.

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Did the same thing on mine. Bought a roll of line from NAPA and bent it myself using the old one as a pattern - flared the ends and done. Tricky area in the rear wheel arch where the line bends around the frame at sharp angles (also has a spring covering the line).

No problem on the tank - tried it on mine and hoped to save you the trouble. No amount of cleaning worked and it was a fairly clean tank to start with. I think the coating in mine finally started to fail and kept blocking the inlet in the tank.

My new tank was a bit strange in that when I used the original cap it seemed to vapor lock and starve the engine of fuel. Switched to a vented cap and that seemed to build up too much pressure in the tank because it would only let air in - not out. So with all the pressure in the tank it pushed fuel into the carb after shutting the car off. Finally drilled a tiny hole in the filler neck - went back to the original cap and all has been fine. Hopefully you won't have any trouble.

Although I would rather have my original 4100 carb I recently replaced mine with a Holley 600 cfm. After a lot of fiddling it works ok but think my fuel mileage is about half of what it was. They do like gas.....

Like John mentions - I also have 2 small rubber hoses at the pump (along with a filter). Shouldn't be a problem with modern hose but I know what you're saying. I do still have the solid line up to the carb. If you need one of those I recently bought one from MAC's and it fit nicely. You could probably make one cheaper though.



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Thanks John. I was wondering if the movement of the engine was going to be too much. I had planned to make a small coil of line there to allow that movement but may be digging in some over-engineering of under-malleable materials. That one bit of rubber hose is probably best.
And thank you Eric for the tips. The little hole in the filler tube sounds like the way to go. Also, I read your write up on your tank replacement. Great write up.
Thanks guys. These tips are necessary for the goal.
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Daniel:
First of all, I'd like to welcome you to the forum.
So many of us here have gone through the challenges you will be facing in the coming months. Something else to consider is that several of the TBird parts houses will give you an additional 10% discount on orders over $1000, so it can be worth it to make a list and buy at the same time. One word of caution here is that some houses will not include parts that are already discounted for buying a "set" etc. (Door panels are one example) Other places seem not to care and will give the discount as long as you spend $1000. It's always good to ask before you buy.
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Thanks for that advice too Nyles. Luckily (at least so far) the parts have been minimal. But I'll be sure to reach out when my list of parts will be anywhere near that figure. Excellent advice for a restoration.

Thanks again,
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?? I'm almost afraid to ask this question I didn't do any research its first time I've heard this , which is it no surprise to me , But what happens to the fuel if connected with a hard line and it's vibration, it's connected to a hard line at the carburetor, ??
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A hard line from the fuel pump to the carburetor is fine. That's the way Ford designed it. Vibration and movement is only an issue between the engine and the car body.

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