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Also the Scarebirds kit uses standard off the shelf parts. If Tom's goes out of business do you really know what brake pads or calipers and rotors to buy? Dollar for dollar it appears that Tom's kit is a better buy but there are other things to consider. I like being able to go to my local store and get parts rather than having to depend on Tom's to be around five years from now.
I asked that question of Tom's some time ago and their response was:
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It appears they are using the same or similar parts as Scarebird recommends. I question Scarebirds claim that you can use your stock rims. That really only leaves the mounting bracket. Scarebirds one piece bracket appears better made but I don't know for sure. You're probably going to add $90-100 to get the rotors, calipers and hoses to use the Scarebird kit which makes Tom's kit a much better buy. Maybe Steve (Yadkin) can chime in.

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The OEM wheel on my '60 has a center hole approx 2 9/16.
This did not fit over the Granada rotor.
Wheels on the '63 may be different???

I wound up using 80's Crown Vic 14 inch wheels to fit over the snout on my Granada rotors.






(also using Granada calipers and spindles.....only thing available 12 years ago when I converted my '60)

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I question Scarebirds claim that you can use your stock rims.
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Wheels on the '63 may be different???
I don't have stock rims, but they are 14", so it's probably a crapshoot no matter what I choose.
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It appears they are using the same or similar parts as Scarebird recommends. I question Scarebirds claim that you can use your stock rims...
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The OEM wheel on my '60 has a center hole approx 2 9/16.
This did not fit over the Granada rotor.
Wheels on the '63 may be different???...
We may be assuming too much about the Scarebird claims.

$320 is FAR too expensive for a couple brackets. I see the hubs are also included in the kit, but wait... Don't hubs normally come with rotors and at a much lower cost?

Someone may want to call Scarebird because it is possible that these are 10" rotors with turned down snouts to accommodate OEM wheels. That would justify the high price because SQUAREBIRD brackets are half the cost, at $170.

I personally do not like this approach because I want bolt-on rotors I can buy over the counter. I wouldn't go any smaller than 11" rotors, either. Hey, I'll buy new 'disk ready' 14" rims if that's what it takes. - Dave
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Someone may want to call Scarebird because it is possible that these are 10" rotors with turned down snouts to accommodate OEM wheels.
Per oreillyauto.com, rotors for a 1997 Aerostar have an OD of 10.28".

And oddly, the rotor alone is $34-$36 each, or the rotor and hub assembly is $30-$31 each. Here are the listed specs on a rotor and hub assembly:
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Disc Brake Rotor And Hub Assembly
Front Left
Rear Wheel Drive
Bolt Circle Diameter (In): 4.500 Inch
Bolt Circle Diameter (mm): 114.30mm
Number Of Bolt Holes: 5
Outside Diameter (In): 10.280 Inch

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
Center Hole Size (In): 2.330 Inch
Nominal Thickness (In): 0.875 Inch
Discard Thickness (In): 0.811 Inch
Overall Height (In): 4.130 Inch
Solid Or Vented: Vented
So if the Scarebird setup has turned down snouts, we'd expect the overall height to be less than 4.130", right?

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