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Hi Guys,
For those of you that have the 430 engine, would someone please measure the length of the drive shaft? I believe that I have the wrong one.
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According to the Ford parts book it should be 52" using measurement C on the diagram.

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John, that almost took an hour for you to respond, with a diagram and complete description.

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Thanks John,
Mine is 52". How about the yoke that slips into the trans shaft. Is it the same as 352? Seems like mine is not going in to the trans far enough. I will look at it again tomorrow.
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If I'm reading the chart correctly it should be 8 7/32" using measurement A on the chart. The 352 is the same.

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Mine must be shortened with some hodgepodge of parts (really long yoke??) the guy I bought it from had laying around. Just measured it and it's 49, u-joint to u-joint.
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Hi Guys,
I double checked and the yoke is bottoming out against the trans shaft and the driveshaft is still too long. The yoke measures centerline to end 7 5/16. The depth that the trans shaft goes in measures 6 7/16 which leaves 7/8 to center line. From center line on the differential to the end of trans shaft measures 50 7/8. If you subtract the 7/8 on the yoke I get 50 inches centerline to centerline for the length of the driveshaft. This does not take into account clearance needed for movement of the yoke on trans shaft. Hopefully this makes sense. I think that 49" that 0x1 posted is probably closer to the right length. Hopefully some one else can measure theirs.
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I'm pretty sure OX1 has a 352 and not a 430 so I'm not sure why his would measure 49 inches. Here's a thread from 2007 that seems to indicate that the drive shaft is indeed shorter on a 430 but neither Carl Heller nor I can find any info anywhere which gives a specific length. William Wonders' book "The Thunderbird Restoration Guide" which has been seen as the bible for restoring Thunderbirds also lists the drive shaft as 52". Obviously from your experience it needs to be shorter.

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