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Old 02-23-2016, 06:34 PM
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Harry, you got me scratching my head. I don't remember the headlight switch being on for backup lights.
Some where along this time frame Ford changed the way backup lights were wired. Little Birds had the back up lights connected to the light switch and of course only worked when the lights were on. Why would you want back up lights on during the day??

I don't know when the change was made, but probably before 61. An interesting research project.
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Harry, you got me scratching my head. I don't remember the headlight switch being on for backup lights.
Harry's right Dave - at least on the '60. Just one of those crazy quirks on our Squarebirds. Guess FORD figured if you didn't have your lights on it must be daytime so you could see when you backed up.

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Dave you are correct on the trunk light. I thought mine was bad or disconnected with all of the wiring issues I had on my '58(What a horror story that was).

One night had the headlights and opened the trunk. Magically, the trunk light was on!!!!!

Then I'm thinking who engineered this idea????
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In 1958, '59 & '60 all Backup Lights are fed from the Headlight Switch (A terminal). (So is the glove box light.) Here's the Headlight Switch (B9AF-11654-A) w/circuit breaker diagram, showing 'A' is on all the time.

If your backup lights depend on the Headlight Sw, someone wrongly connected the Black/Red wire to 'R' (which does NOT stand for 'reverse', it stands for 'rear tail lights').
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So, with some feedback from here, I started looking into the issues I had.
- 4 wires are connected to the steering wheel, so the reverse should worl.
After I put the headlights on, I indeed was able to measure 12V.
The lights got painted, preventing a good grounding. I'll be fixing that tomorrow.
- Wasn't able to find a flasher unit (see picture A)
- I found 2 weird things in the Thunderbird: this small black electical unit, "made in France". Don't know what it is. (Picture B)
I found a big black box in the left driver side corner. Has a hinge with a hole in it, don't know what it is. Hinge seems to be stuck, don't want to force it. (Pictures C). Anyone got a clue?

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I'm not sure what that electrical part is. The wiring is not factory and Ford didn't have anything in their cars that was made in France. The flasher should be on the right side of the steering column behind the dash. If you can't find it you may have to trace the wire that comes off the back of the headlight switch where the fuse is.
That black unit with the handle is the vent. It should have a plastic knob on it but they usually break or fall off. If it's frozen than try some WD-40 or other penetrating oil.

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You can probably get that plastic ball that is missing from Carl Heller ~ partsetal on here.. Carl has lots of Squarebirds parts and also has Squarebird parts cars...
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MIXO Neuilly-Seine is a company that makes horns and relays.

Check next to your voltage regulator for a horn relay. It should be there with a short power wire connected between the voltage regulator and the horn relay. The Blue/Yellow wire goes to your steering column for the horn ring. Grounding this wire blows the horn.

Evidently, someone didn't know how to fix the horn so they added a very expensive relay.
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Ok thanks for the info again guys!
Well, that relay would have been great if it actually made the horn work :-D Guess I'll have to find out how to make it work.
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Fixed the grounding issue on the reverse lights, they are working now :-)
Someone didn't screw down the lights in the chrome, preventing a ground.
I took another look for the flasher unit, couldn't find it, guess they are missing :-( Vent is opening and closing now.
Next step is fixing the brake lights.

Also, does anyone know what this is? It's attached to the vent box (front driver, under dasg).

Thanks!
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