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Old 06-07-2015, 07:16 PM
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Hi All, Major restoration work has now started and am in the process of converting my 60HT to rack and pinion steering, ( my complete original power steering is totally shot, everything is leaking, chrome on the damper ram pitted badly, all arms bent and joints worn.) Obviously, replacement, original parts are a big problem here in the UK so need to get a shopping list prepared for shipping from the States.
The steering rack isn't so much the problem, but, my main question for anyone who has completed this is how do you connect the steering column to the rack? I know I am going to need a universal joint somewhere, but do I have to try and use the drop arm from the T-Bird steering box, do I have to modify the steering column and remove the box? I have seen various threads and pictures on this conversion but have been unable to get a positive answer to this problem.
Any and all answers greatly accepted.
I am happy to order any parts, but due to the implication of non return and import duties etc would like to try to get parts that I know will work.
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Hi All, Major restoration work has now started and am in the process of converting my 60HT to rack and pinion steering, ( my complete original power steering is totally shot, everything is leaking, chrome on the damper ram pitted badly, all arms bent and joints worn.) Obviously, replacement, original parts are a big problem here in the UK so need to get a shopping list prepared for shipping from the States.
The steering rack isn't so much the problem, but, my main question for anyone who has completed this is how do you connect the steering column to the rack? I know I am going to need a universal joint somewhere, but do I have to try and use the drop arm from the T-Bird steering box, do I have to modify the steering column and remove the box? I have seen various threads and pictures on this conversion but have been unable to get a positive answer to this problem.
Any and all answers greatly accepted.
I am happy to order any parts, but due to the implication of non return and import duties etc would like to try to get parts that I know will work.
Many thanks in advance.
Mal
Hey Mal! I don't have any advise but I am really interested in the process!!! Take LOTS of picture and share with the rest of us!!
I have heard and seen some pictures of people retrofitting a R&P in the past.. so its been done... just not sure how! lol
Best of luck to you!
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And if you do a search on the subject on this site you'll find some interesting tid bits...
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Mal, I found 5 links that deal with rack & pinion conversions. Here is what I was able to find on here regarding this for you.

http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...ht=rack+pinion

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Perhaps you will be able to find the information you need in these threads.
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From what I'm seeing you need some mad fab skills to do the conversion, I don't so.......
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The conversion payoff is tremendous. Our '59 Galaxie steers just like a modern car. The power portion never leaks, the car maneuvers around parking lots easily and the car steers straight without 'hunting' back and forth on the highway... just like a modern car. - Dave
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i`m in the process of adding a r&p to my 59... what i`m using is a rack from a dodge "K" car. most important thing is check tire rotation right to left before choosing a rack set up. i have to cut 2" from each side then re cut threads for my tie rods. the mopar tie rods work ok,but think i`ll go with tie rods from a fairmont rack..probably a 08 thousands difference. i`ll probably fab brackets to mount to my cross member as that`s a pretty straight line to your spindle ends...i knoticed some use the idler and gear box holes and fab brackets to adapt. only thing i`d be concerned about is the rack would be setting quite a ways behind your spindle causeing maybe bad bump steer...that means when you hit either a bump or a dip your wheels will actually pull on their own...not a good thing. most importaint thing is think it out and trail fit before making or welding any brackets...hope i have put some insight for you
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...i knoticed some use the idler and gear box holes and fab brackets to adapt. only thing i`d be concerned about is the rack would be setting quite a ways behind your spindle causeing maybe bad bump steer...
I respectfully disagree. My tie rods are as close to the #2 cross member as the OEM links were, if not closer.

Notice there is no engine or trans. When they are installed, the R&P setup sits flatter. No, I do not get bump steer.

The advantage in using existing frame holes is in the ability to make the brackets hold the rack gear just about anywhere you want. Check out my tie rods...
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Looks like a nice conversion!
I see the U-joint going to the rack. Can you explain what you did to the column? I think you could replace it with an aftermarket unit but the T-bird column is kinda neat!

Is yours a modified stock column?
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very nice set up..difference being you are using a GM style rack where as i`m using a mopar where the ends come directally out of the ends of the rack. I have a GM rack in the barn...might have to look at it too.
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