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Old 12-30-2014, 08:01 PM
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So I picked up a project that I'm having trouble with. Its a 1964 t bird convertible. Interior was taken apart when I bought it. So I put it back together and I can't get the car started. It won't even crank. When I turn the key I get headlights so I know I have power. When I try to turn it over I get a clicking sound. So I had someone run the key and I listened for the noise. The clicking is coming from a relay on the passenger firewall. It's a 4 pin 12v rectangle relay. Am I on the right track or does that hve nothing to do with starting the car? Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Battery is new, took the starter out and tested it and it will spin so I'm assuming it's good, changed out the solenoid and that didn't help. Thanks
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:16 PM
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What you're describing sounds like the starter solenoid. If it's clicking it sounds like it's getting power from the ignition through the neutral switch. What you can do is bypass it by jumping from the positive battery terminal to the starter cable that's on the solenoid. If the motor turns over then the starter is good and the solenoid is probably bad. You can test the solenoid by using a test light or voltmeter.

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The 'vert is Model 76. The master electrical diagram shows the top control relay on the passenger side of the firewall. That shouldn't have anything to do with the starter circuit.

Maybe you have a switch in the top mechanism stuck in the on position. If that's the case the top relay would cycle off when you engage the starter relay, since the starter circuit takes nearly all the power from the battery. I suggest you pull the top relay while you diagnose the starter circuit.
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The solenoid/starter relay is on the front passenger side between the battery and the grill.

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Let's hear about how you ran your ground wire from the battery. Is it tight? Are your electrical connections solid with no corrosion? Did you scrape the oxide off your battery posts and cable connections before tightening them?

Is the Starter Solenoid firmly attached to chassis ground? If it's loose on your car body, it ain't gunna work.

Use a jumper cable and do what John said; jump both large terminals on your starter solenoid. If the starter motor still doesn't turn, let us know. - Dave
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Where are the ground wires suppose to be hooked up at? When I jump the solenoid by the two posts it just clicks.
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Your negative battery cable should be bolted to the side of the engine block. Are you jumping the two large connectors on the side of the solenoid or the two small ones in the front.

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To test the starter rely (solenoid), connect a jumper cable from one large post to the other. This should give the battery 12v directly to the starter motor. If it doesn't turn the motor, then you have a bad ground.
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I was jumping the two smaller ones in the front of the solenoid with a screw driver. Is that wrong? How many grounds should I have and where? I think that maybe the issue. Thanks for all the advice I really appreciate it.
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You need to jump the two larger ones. Make sure you use something heavy like jumper cables.

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