This will take you to the main site where there is history, technical information and other information on these cars.
This takes you back to the main page of the forums.
This is the control panel to change your password, information and preferences on this message board.
Click here if your lost your password or need to register on this message board. You must be a registered user to post. Registration is free.
Search this board for information you need.
Click here to buy cool Squarebirds mechandise.
Click here to support Squarebirds.org. For $20 annually receive 20mBytes webspace, a Squarebirds e-mail address and member's icon on the message board.
  #11  
Old 01-13-2015, 05:27 PM
Daleo56 Daleo56 is offline
Experienced
 
Join Date: Dec 27 2014
Posts: 314
Daleo56 is on a distinguished road
Default

I usually convert all of my cars to dual MC and disc up front at some point during the rebuild process. I get most of my parts from ABS or CPP locally but I see that Larry's has kits too. I doubt I will do a Granada type conversion and figure something out along the way.

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-13-2015, 05:36 PM
YellowRose's Avatar
YellowRose YellowRose is offline
Super-Experienced and a HELLOFA nice guy
 
Join Date: Jan 21 2008
Posts: 11,821
YellowRose is on a distinguished road
Default Project Snowbird - 1960 Hardtop

Tim, that is a very nice looking installation! I see that you are using the same combination valve that I and others use on our conversions. No, you would not want to do a Granada conversion. Others have and have had front end alignment problems going that route. You have to shave your Tbird spindles using the Granada conversion. What we used slipped right onto our Tbird spindles making it a very easy conversion. We have not had that front end alignment problem. Myself, Howard Prout and others on here have stayed with 14" rims because our tires were new, and found 14" disc brake ready rims off a 70's Granada, Lincoln or other properly equipped Ford car. We used Scarebird equipment, MBM MC's and 8" dual power boosters, and much of the other equipment we got from Rock Auto at a discount. Since you are probably gonna be buying new tires, going 15" rims and tires would be the way to go to my way of thinking, except for your stock 14" hubcaps. That is what I would have done if I had not had brand new tires on the car when I bought it.
__________________

Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
'59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
"It's Hip To Be Square"
Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

rayclark07"at"att.net (Home) 210-674-5781 (Cell) 210-875-1411
http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm

Last edited by YellowRose : 01-14-2015 at 01:29 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-13-2015, 06:06 PM
Daleo56 Daleo56 is offline
Experienced
 
Join Date: Dec 27 2014
Posts: 314
Daleo56 is on a distinguished road
Default

It sounds like all of the kits require different rims? Bummer. I am hoping I can keep the stock sway bar too so I will have to check with any system I buy I guess. I am probably going to find a way to make the 14" rims work as I am not ready to give up the stock hubcaps.

Pomona is this weekend so I will see if I can check with the brake vendors while I am looking for 60' parts

Last edited by Daleo56 : 01-13-2015 at 06:35 PM. Reason: update 14"
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-13-2015, 06:44 PM
DKheld's Avatar
DKheld DKheld is offline
Super-Experienced
 
Join Date: Aug 27 2008
Posts: 1,431
DKheld is on a distinguished road
Default

I converted with Granada spindles 10+ years ago before any kits or brackets were available - the Granada route was the only bolt on option - could have welded in a F150 front end or something crazy like that.

It is difficult to find a shop that will work with you on the alignment - I got lucky and was able to take mine back 3-4 times until I was satisfied - no extra charge. The guy just liked old cars. I went back the last time to get the settings he had used (about a month later) and the shop had closed. Apparently the property became very valuable and he got on offer he couldn't refuse. I hope to get to a shop just to have the measurements taken so I can post for others - might be a touch too much negative camber but tires still look good 10K miles later and drives super.

I used late 70's 14 inch LTD wheels so that I could run the stock hubcaps. Probably won't be able to find those wheels these days either.

I think another option is to have the rotor snouts turned to fit in the original wheel hole but might get thin depending on what rotor you use.

Another possibility is to convert to the optional Kelsy Hayes wire wheels but you would have to test the fit with the calipers.

Only complaint about the "kits" available is that I believe most do not use backing plates. They are not necessary but I'd rather have them. My Granada backing plates have cooling scoops to help with rotor cooling. You may not need extra cooling but I drive mine on mountain roads often - it helps.

Eric







Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-13-2015, 06:56 PM
Daleo56 Daleo56 is offline
Experienced
 
Join Date: Dec 27 2014
Posts: 314
Daleo56 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DKheld View Post
I used late 70's 14 inch LTD wheels so that I could run the stock hubcaps. Probably won't be able to find those wheels these days either.

Eric

GREAT LOOKING BIRD. I would like to see more pictures or a link to your post.

I run 14" rims on all of my Ranchero's so I will check my spares to see if the 60' hubcaps fit them. I may have three of what I need already

Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-13-2015, 07:41 PM
YellowRose's Avatar
YellowRose YellowRose is offline
Super-Experienced and a HELLOFA nice guy
 
Join Date: Jan 21 2008
Posts: 11,821
YellowRose is on a distinguished road
Default Project Snowbird - 1960 Hardtop

Tim, those are some great looking Ranchero's! You might look for these 14" rims, because the 14" OEM rims that your Tbird left the factory with are NOT manufactured to handle a disc brake set up in them.. As it is, 14" rims off any 1977-1979 rim from the Lincoln Versailles, Ford LTD II, Torino, or Ranchero, 1975-1980 Ford Granada, 1972-1979 Torino, or Ranchero just barely fit, with a very slim amount of space left once the rims are in place. But they do fit.

No one that I know of had to replace their stock sway bar because of adding the disc brake setup that we used. Some have replaced it for a heavier duty, better sway bar because of choice for better performance of the car, and even added a rear sway bar.
__________________

Ray Clark - Squarebirds Administrator
'59 Tbird "The Yellow Rose Of Texas" aka "Tweety Bird"
"It's Hip To Be Square"
Thunderbird Registry #33025 VTCI #11178

rayclark07"at"att.net (Home) 210-674-5781 (Cell) 210-875-1411
http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-14-2015, 01:26 AM
Daleo56 Daleo56 is offline
Experienced
 
Join Date: Dec 27 2014
Posts: 314
Daleo56 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YellowRose View Post
As it is, 14" rims off any 1977-1979 rim from the Lincoln Versailles, Ford LTD II, Torino, or Ranchero, 1975-1980 Ford Granada, 1972-1979 Torino, or Ranchero just barely fit, with a very slim amount of space left once the rims are in place. But they do fit.
I will see if I have enough rims to make a set at the shop!

I drilled out the trunk lock tonight. I was hoping for treasure but only found four gallons of old water, old snow chains and some rat droppings. Ugh.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:04 AM
Dan Leavens's Avatar
Dan Leavens Dan Leavens is offline
Moderator / Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 4 2006
Posts: 4,494
Dan Leavens is on a distinguished road
Cool

Tim is that a snow tire as the spare Looks like it has some serious rubber
__________________
Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
Thunderbird Registry
58HT #33317 60HT # 23023
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:32 AM
Daleo56 Daleo56 is offline
Experienced
 
Join Date: Dec 27 2014
Posts: 314
Daleo56 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Leavens View Post
Tim is that a snow tire as the spare Looks like it has some serious rubber
Yes it is a snow tire. Or a small tractor tire.

Help. The TRL did not say which wire reversed the motor. I think my switch only works up and I got it wedged in there on accident when trying to remove it.


Last edited by Daleo56 : 01-14-2015 at 09:40 AM. Reason: added window pic
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-14-2015, 10:23 AM
jopizz's Avatar
jopizz jopizz is offline
Excellent Auto Mechanic for over 40 years.
 
Join Date: Nov 23 2009
Posts: 4,749
jopizz is on a distinguished road
Default

The red and yellow are your up and down. The green should have power in either direction.

John
__________________
John Pizzi - Squarebirds Administrator
1959 Convertible

Thunderbird Registry #36223
jopizz@verizon.net 856-779-9695

http://www.squarebirds.org/picture_gallery/TechnicalResourceLibrary/trl.htm
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:13 AM.

Driving, racing or working on cars can be hazardous. The procedures and advice on this website including the message board are opinion only. Squarebirds.org and its webmasters and contributors do not guarantee the correctness of the advice and procedures. The Squarebirds.org and its webmasters assume no liability for any damage, fines, punishment, injury or death resulting from following these procedures or advice. If you do not have the skills or tools to repair your car, please consult a professional. By using this site you agree to hold harmless the Squarebirds.org, its authors and its webmasters from any resulting claim and costs that may occur from using the information found on this site.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Any submissions to this site and any post on this site becomes property of Squarebirds.org . The webmasters reserve the right to edit and modify any submissions to this site. All material on this is site is copyrighted by the Squarebirds.org. Reproduction by any means other than for personal use is strictly prohibited. Permission to use material on this site can be obtained by contacting the webmasters. Copyright 2002-2016 by Squarebirds.org.