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Old 05-20-2014, 11:21 PM
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Default '66 390 p/steer pump adjustment, hits inner fender

Hello all. Reassembling my non a/c '66 390 after 8 months of winter and being too busy. Heads and intake went back on this aft, alt and brackets on pass side fine. Installing p/s pump, I noticed that when the front bracket is installed to the water pump, and upper pivot bolt that the pump and bracket share, the left side of pump hits the bolt/stud for the front bumper bracket. Noticed some pretty good scaring on the pump body and it looks like at max I'd have 1/4 inch of adjustment?
Motor mounts look good, engine sits level. I suspect this is not a '66 motor as C8 castings were on the heads, but w/pump bolt locations matched old to new, anyone have any ideas? Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:41 PM
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With most retrofits, sometimes brackets need to be changed, somewhat.

One of my cars had the P/S bracket hitting the battery tray. The solution was to cut a 'pie-shaped' piece out and weld the steel bracket together again. Yours might need something similar. After painting, you'd never know it's welded.
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I'm thinking that you may have the wrong pump and/or mounting bracket. The pump design was changed in 1967 so if you have a later motor you may have the later pump also. This is the pump you should have. It was only used in 65 & 66.

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Old 05-21-2014, 08:34 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Pondered modifying the bracket, but with the big fat pump body which has a small friction fit dipstick and tube, at most I'd have 1/2 inch max side to side movement before hitting the fuel pump or the bumper bracket bolts. In your reply John, you show a pump that is way different than mine. I've worked on a lot of Fords but I've not seen one in that style. I thought about switching to a Saginaw pump but it is just too "fat" as well. I'll have to check casting numbers on the aluminum pump bracket and try and determine if I only need the correct pump or have to locate the brackets as well. I have to admit I did check out 2 other 390's that I've stashed away and neither had any brackets or pumps on them. Thanks for your help guys. Dan
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:04 AM
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Default '66 390 p/steer pump adjustment, hits inner fender

I did some research for you tonight on '66 390 power steering pumps. First of all, the Bird Nest catalog shows the power steering pump for a '66 390 with the original 1 3/4" filler tube to be a Model 6093. They also list a power steering pump with the small filler tube as a Model 6092. They both list for $125 plus a $100 core deposit. Rock Auto, which is a member of this Forum, shows the same power steering pump that John showed you and the Model 206092 for $41.79 + $50 core charge. They do not show a Model 6093 listed, but they do show a Model 206305 for $53.79 + $45 core charge. This model says it has the original OE style reservoir. Keep in mind that Rock Auto also gives their fellow Forum members a discount. You will find it in the Advertisements Forum. I hope this will help you. Here is the link to Rock Auto.

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Appreciate the numbers and time researching the pumps. 15 years ago I parted out a 65 bird from a buddy's salvage yard. No engine or trans, but it had factory a/c and tinted windows, so I pulled the glass, the dash, even the remains of the cruise control servo's under the hood. Believe me I'm an optimist but this one was so far gone it was good for parts only. Last thing I pulled before she went back to the yard was the rear diff and springs. So I dived into the shed, moved a lot of packrat stuff, sound familiar?, and found the p/steer pump, with dipstick, and two cast iron brackets all in one piece. Even has the idler wheel for the a/c belt. I noticed when mounting the correct one, plenty of room side to side, gas line now attaches to pump with no interference, but instead of the pressure line kicked toward the left inner fender, it routes the to inside of the valve cover. Lines attach just fine, even has the tin "clamp" that secures the line to the filler neck. All in all I'm happy. Anyone need a pump and brackets for a '68? lol. Now to figure out the carb linkage.
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction. Dan
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