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If someone would like to take this project on and write up something for the TRL with pictures, I would be glad to post it in the TRL. I don't really know a lot about shocks.
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The rear end on my '59 (352 with a continental kit) is weak and hanging low -- so low that my body weight of 195 pounds is enough make the whole car lean left when I'm aboard. Right now, I'm inclined to go with new McVeigh springs and air shocks but would like to get some input from other Bird nuts first.

I want to end up with a safe, comfortable ride -- and not something to be entered in a Mexican Road Race. I'm hoping to avoid installing sway bars. If it's a little low, that's OK, too. (Praise The Lowered.) If the front end is a little high, I can cut the coils a bit. (Again, Praise The Lowered.)

Your comments are welcome! Thank you. Roger
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Roger, I use McVeigh springs and I love them. Your situation is different because behind your rear axle, you have what amounts to a long lever (the continental extension) with a weight at the end (the tire).

I normally don't suggest this but you should contact Eaton Detroit Spring's technical department. They can calculate more exactly what you need, then they build it.

Sway bars do not affect your car's height at all. They only stop your car from leaning over around curves. If you like how 'flat' your modern car rides around expressway exit ramps, then you should install A PAIR of good sway bars. If you're still not sure about this, ask Eaton Detroit Spring. - Dave
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The rear end on my '59 (352 with a continental kit) is weak and hanging low -- so low that my body weight of 195 pounds is enough make the whole car lean left when I'm aboard. Right now, I'm inclined to go with new McVeigh springs and air shocks but would like to get some input from other Bird nuts first.

I want to end up with a safe, comfortable ride -- and not something to be entered in a Mexican Road Race. I'm hoping to avoid installing sway bars. If it's a little low, that's OK, too. (Praise The Lowered.) If the front end is a little high, I can cut the coils a bit. (Again, Praise The Lowered.)

Your comments are welcome! Thank you. Roger
I have a small storage space in Duarte and am around if you need help or want to take measurements. I have a 1960 hardtop and am also in Arcadia (just South of Longden) all the time.
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I have a small storage space in Duarte and am around if you need help or want to take measurements. I have a 1960 hardtop and am also in Arcadia (just South of Longden) all the time.
If you're in Arcadia and have a few minutes to spare, you're welcome to stop by anytime. Roger Ward, 144 W. Norman Ave, Arcadia, 91007. (626) 447-7130. (Two blocks south of El Camino and one block west of Santa Anita.) I'm retired so I'm around most of the time. You can leave a message anytime on my machine; I rarely pick up the phone (too many solicitation calls.)

I've been following your progress here on the forum and would love to see your car whenever you're available. You can leave a message as to when and where it's good for you - and I'll be there! Thanks, Roger
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Ray - Thank you for the offer but I'm unconcerned.

Dave and Daleo56 - Thank you for your input. Does anyone else have anything to add regarding my rear suspension issues?
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Yesterday I put rear air shocks into my '59 Bird and today I ordered rear springs from McVeigh. When they're in and functioning, I'll write up a report.
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Default McVeigh Rear Springs

Following Dave's suggestion here on the forum, I got a set of rear springs from McVeigh and following Nyles' suggestion I got a set of rear air shocks. The shocks went in fine; the springs are half way in (my mechanic hurt his back on another car before he completed the install.) I can't report on them yet but so far, it looks like my problem may be solved. The McVeigh springs have six leaves although I think the originals have five. It took three tries before UPS was successful in delivering them; the first two attempts resulted in empty boxes. The third time, McVeigh taped delivery instructions directly to the springs and sent them with no box! I'd rather have slightly scuffed springs than none at all! I have only good things to say about McVeigh's efforts to get them to me. I spoke to Lyle at McVeigh at (989) 826-3682. Cost was very reasonable: $110 each + $56 shipping for a total delivered cost of $276.
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Unless you deliver phone books out of your trunk, I would stay away from air shocks. Their purpose is to lift and greatly stiffen your suspension by charging the shocks with air.

Six progressive leafs should offer all the lift you need. Good shocks control the ride.
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Default Rear Suspension Update

Today I finished up with the rear on my '59 Bird (352 cid with a continental kit and half the aftermarket A/C remaining. Here's a progress report after putting in McVeigh leaf springs and air shocks with 30# of air: I can't tell for sure if I'm happy (until I get some radials on the car) but it seems pretty good so far. The stance is about the same, near level with a very slight rake. I don't know the measurements from before (didn't take them) but afterward they are:
FRONT = 10 1/4" (bottom of front bumper to ground)
REAR WHEEL OPENING = 19 1/2" (no skirt, to ground)
REAR = 15" (bottom of rear bumper to ground.)
Next come radials; then, if necessary, it's on to sway bars.
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