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Old 04-11-2013, 08:32 PM
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Can you tell if there is an adapter on there to move the filter to a different location. All FE engines have the oil filter opening on the driver's side front. I do know of adapters that you can install to change where the filter is similar to this one

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John that is exactly what it looks like but it is straight up and down and in rear. Tommy"
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:51 PM
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If you can get us a picture or two that would help. You definitely have an FE motor. Your intake manifold and valve covers will only fit FE motors. The only question is what year. I've seen later model truck motors both 360 and 390 and have never seen the oil filter in the rear.

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If you can get us a picture or two that would help. You definitely have an FE motor. Your intake manifold and valve covers will only fit FE motors. The only question is what year. I've seen later model truck motors both 360 and 390 and have never seen the oil filter in the rear.

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John i'm not going up to the bird until the 19th then I will register it and drive her to my parents house and believe me I will get every # I can and take pictures. It is just driving me crazy not knowing exactly what I have. Thanks for your help. Tommy"
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:34 PM
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Hi everyone, MY BAD" I enlarged the photo of engine an noticed the oil sending unit left side up front so the filter is where it is supposed to be with an adaptor plate 90 degree angle and small screw on filter. That was driving me crazy!!! I also know that it does not have the threading in the block for alternator. The alternator is mounted low and looks factory. I know t-bird and Galaxie came through with an alternator in 1963 and the rest followed in 1965. The engine is also painted black which changed I think in 65 or 66. The more I find makes me think it is a 63 390 t-bird or galaxie, with the light truck heads. I will know for sure after this weekend.It runs absolutely beautiful I just want to know what it all is. I apologize for misleading everyone I will post info and pictures as soon as I know. Thanks for all your help. Tommy"
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Hi all, I finally have my bird at my mom's house. I didn't have a lot of time and the weather wasn't co-operating. Ok here's what I found. There is webbing on both sides of engine and the block has 4 holes for a 4 bolt motor mt.. The date by oil filter has a w with 1 flat screw head on each side, under is date code hard to make out first# looks like 8M13 the 8 could be a 3 or 5 couldn't tell. Left side of block has 55-DIF. up front l/side is a 6 and below is 352. On the r/side front of engine is LMP below that is 111848 then below that is 4005 or S. Oil drain plug is drivers side towards the rear just short of corner. Freeze out plugs measured 1&1/2" that's all I could find on engine. Now tranny case measured around 11" on case. Pan was close to 10x12" with a little bump left side of center in rear. #'s off tranny 9M 7006 dif 5 3M13 other # I might have backwards 9ME 7006 A the dip stick goes into pan on center of passenger side with a large nut holding in tube. Cast bell and cast case aluminum tail shaft. That's all I could get this trip thanks in advance for any help. Tommy"PS. just noticed that date code on tranny and engine if the 8 is a 3 are the same. Don't know if that helps i'm losing it. LOl"
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From my research the reinforcement webs were only used on '73 and '74 truck engines. The four bolt motor mount also indicates it is a truck engine or FT engine. If the date code is 8M13 that would be December 13, 1978 which doesn't seem right. It's more than likely 3M13 which would be December 13, 1973. It could be a 330, 361 or 391. There's no way to tell without measuring the stroke. The 352 stamping is normal.

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Tommy, when you get a chance get a better measurement on that center case section of the tranny. A Large case measures 10 7/8" for a 1958-1960 Tranny. A 1961-1965 Large case tranny measures 11.6". Hopefully, someone will be able to tell you which tranny you have from the numbers. If it is a 430 tranny, the tag on the drivers side should have said 430 on the left side of the tag and the number on the right side.
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From my research the reinforcement webs were only used on '73 and '74 truck engines. The four bolt motor mount also indicates it is a truck engine or FT engine. If the date code is 8M13 that would be December 13, 1978 which doesn't seem right. It's more than likely 3M13 which would be December 13, 1973. It could be a 330, 361 or 391. There's no way to tell without measuring the stroke. The 352 stamping is normal.

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Hi john, I did measure the stroke and it's 3-7/8" so i'm thinking 390 unless it's a 391. I think your right about the date. I'm wondering if it still has the low cr. I do know it was rebuilt all new freeze out plugs pan bolts etc. The heads are 68.1-71.1 cc so i'm going to do a compression test and see what I have . I think I can get an idea if it's over 150 it probabaly has a 9-9.5 165 and up 9.5-10.5 and 100-120 lbs, probably 8-8.5, correct me if i'm wrong i'm just trying to get an idea. Thanks Tommy"
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Tommy, when you get a chance get a better measurement on that center case section of the tranny. A Large case measures 10 7/8" for a 1958-1960 Tranny. A 1961-1965 Large case tranny measures 11.6". Hopefully, someone will be able to tell you which tranny you have from the numbers. If it is a 430 tranny, the tag on the drivers side should have said 430 on the left side of the tag and the number on the right side.
Hi Ray, there was no tag or plate on the tranny but I just rechecked my measurements and I was over 11"close to 11 & 1/2". Thanks Tommy"
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Hi john, I did measure the stroke and it's 3-7/8" so i'm thinking 390 unless it's a 391. I think your right about the date. I'm wondering if it still has the low cr. I do know it was rebuilt all new freeze out plugs pan bolts etc. The heads are 68.1-71.1 cc so i'm going to do a compression test and see what I have . I think I can get an idea if it's over 150 it probabaly has a 9-9.5 165 and up 9.5-10.5 and 100-120 lbs, probably 8-8.5, correct me if i'm wrong i'm just trying to get an idea. Thanks Tommy"
My guess is that it's a 391 which had a compression ration of 8:1.

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