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Old 01-27-2013, 11:51 AM
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Hello, it's me again and I would like to ask how many belts do I need with 352 FE engine and air conditioning (3?), their size and a diagram of how they should work, please.

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Hey Roberto,
Welcome! See if this helps.
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Richard, it helps a lot!! Thank you so much. Roberto
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Is there anyway the image can be enhanced? It is not very clear (too light). Was this diagram from an AC kit of the period?
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I just installed an used but working A/C compressor and the strange thing is its pulley is aligned with the central alley of the fan pulley That's why I asked about the belts...
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Default 1960 352 FE engine: Belts with A/C?

I took that pic to Photoshop and darkened it some. I could clean it up a bit in the areas around the engine, but mainly he just needs to see the belt set up. Here is the pic.
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The '58's are done differently, so you probably do need to ensure what year pulleys and accessories you are using. My generator and AC belt both wrap around the water pump which has a double pulley. If I don't run the AC belt, and I lose the generator belt, I lose engine cooling on my '58.
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I'm glad you asked about this - been fooling with mine for a year + now. I've been adding A/C to a car that did not have it originally and trying to make it as it would have been installed from the dealer.

Notice in the shop manual pic - the power steering pump does not have a belt.

I had one belt on the back grove of the crank driving the water pump and generator and the front grove driving the p/s (normal non A/C config). I found and used the factory A/C pulley for my conversion (COAE - 8509 - A). Although I didn't have the A/C belt on it would have gone from the water pump front grove to the A/C compressor. This would mean the rear crank grove would be driving the water pump, fan and A/C compressor. With that set up (and a newer flex fan) the extra resistance from just the flex fan ruined the damper. It separated the rubber from the pulley. That makes me think it is important to have 2 belts on the crank pulley as in the pic and possibly the PS pump has an add on pulley on the crank and a different one on the pump. The front pulley is solid (no damper) so that would help drive the fan, A/C and generator.

Here's what I had.




So I thought about running the 2nd belt (yellow) from the crank to the generator by adding a hard to find 2 belt pulley to the generator and up to the water pump.

But then you don't have a grove for the p/s pump and you can't run a long belt all the way around from the crank and generator because the 2 belts would be moving at different speeds (since the p/s pump pulley is a different size than the generator pulley).

That's what makes me think the p/s pump has a different add on pulley to the crank and a different pulley on the pump to move it out. (I'm pretty sure the p/s pulley numbers are different for A/C and non A/C - Might be able to move the p/s pump out with new longer bolts and shims but I gave up for the winter)

Hope you get it figured out.

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Thank you for your advices....

First thing. The seller who gave me the used A/C compressor told me it was on 1960 Tbird.

Then about the pulleys..

Mine now si very close to Dkheld Diagram

But I have 2 yellow belts (generator has 2 groves pulley) and the PS belt goes to Crank only... It seems working but the blue belt is not perfectly aligned, there is a difference of about half a centimeter (0.3 inches).
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The original compressor bracket has slotted holes to permit adjustment and should easily allow for .3 inches of movement of the compressor.
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