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Old 11-12-2012, 09:21 PM
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Can anyone check under the dash and see if their brake pedal has a return spring, insulator and rubber "stop"?

I'm reassembling my 60 HT and I don't have the parts shown in the parts book: Insulator B5A2481-A, Return spring B7A2472-A, and Bumper MA7583-A. I'm not sure if they were ever on the car.

I am trying to locate these parts but it occurred to me that maybe the Birds never had them and the parts books are wrong.

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Do you have a stick shift? The brake pedal support and hardware is different for an automatic.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:49 AM
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Automatic, 430 c.i. motor. Power Brake with booster on firewall.
When I took the car apart, there was no return spring on the brake pedal shaft. Not sure if there ever was one. But now that I am putting it together piece by piece, I want to be sure that it wasn't somehow lost or discarded over the past 50 odd years. It would seem that the booster has a spring so not sure if the spring on the pedal shaft is really needed. A discussion on one of the Falcon forums implied that some cars had them some did not. The parts book shows the 60 Falcon with a similar return spring.

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I've never seen one with out a spring of some sort or without a stop bumper either. The spring makes the pedal fully lift away from the push rod.
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Thanks!

I have been able to locate most of the missing parts except the spring B7A2472-A. None of the "standard" Bird suppliers list it and I tried Dennis Carpenter, who at least listed it on his Website. He sold the last one so now I am on to Plan B. I found that Tri-5 Chevies used a similar spring so ordered one for 6 bucks. Will see if it fits. Anyone out there with junk or parting out Birds want to sell me a spring?

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Here's the picture of the brake assembly for a power brake equipped car. As you can see there's no spring like there is on a manual brake manual transmission car.

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x2 on John's comments. Don't remember my car having a spring - there isn't much room for one anyway. I can check tomorrow but mine is a 352 - pretty sure they are the same. Carl Heller has plenty of parts cars - partsetal on the forum - send him a private message.

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My pic didn't turn out like I wanted it to..... but the bottom line is - no spring on a '60 / 352 / non-A/C car with the booster in the engine compartment.

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Thanks Eric,

It didn't look like that cross shaft had ever been apart so I suspected it never had a spring. But how about the rubber "bumper"? There is a rectangular hole in the top of the pedal arm. From your picture looks like no rubber bumper either.

Now I am trying to find a replacement PB pedal, but all the parts houses seem to have a non-original type replacement. The original pedal is rubber molded over a steel backing plate with "Power Brake" molded into the face. VTCI confirms this is right. No stainless trim. I can use my original but it is badly worn. Anyone know of a source for the correct pedal? On the back it is molded 4146857 AY 4.

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Have you checked with Carl Heller (partsetal). He may have one.

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