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Old 12-17-2011, 02:37 AM
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I have run denman G78 14 4 inch white walls on my 1960 T-bird since I restored it some 15 years ago. I have read that denmans are no longer made and my tires are getting old. I will need to replace them and as result might need to change my rims as well. There are so many nice looking Thunderbirds on the site it's hard to chose which comination I should go with. I have Califorina smoothe's on my car now. I am concerned with the size of the white wall. What would be the period correct white wall size and where would I be able to get them.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:59 AM
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It's funny you should mention classic tires, as lnoska & I were just discussing coker tires.

Coker has been around forever, I understand they have all the licenses and molds for making the old bias-ply tires from the period. They also sell radial tires that LOOK like bias ply.

So, which one is the best? I think it depends on your taste. Ray Clark uses simple 'dog dish' hubcaps that allow his yellow rims to jump out.

Other members prefer a wide white wall (from before 1960). Coker tires are not cheap but the width of their white walls are the same price.
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one other source (saw their ad in my little Hagerty insurance magazine that arrived a few weeks ago):

http://www.lucasclassictires.com/
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:47 AM
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2 1/4 is the correct whitewall size. As mentioned Coker and Universal tires has all the period correct 800x14 size tires including Goodyear and BF Goodrich as well as their own brand. G78x14 is the same as 800x14. I believe the P215/75/14 radials only come in 2 1/2 whitewall.
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I've had my tires for about 8-10 years and have been very happy with them. Moved them from the original wheels to the LTD wheels when I changed to disc brakes and they survived the change. They sell a newer tread style these days.

At the time these tires were about 1/2 the price of Coker and since the company was fairly close - the shipping was cheaper as well. When I received them the shipper had badly damaged 2 of them (looked like they had been run over with a fork lift). Called Diamond Back. They shipped 2 more tires that day along with an RMA for the damaged ones rather than having me wait for the old ones to be returned.

Things could have changed in the years since I bought my tires but I'll definitely consider them when purchasing a new set.

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Don't have a good side view close-up of the tires but since the tread design has changed it would probably be better to view them on the web site. Mine are 215 75 14



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A little off the subject but DK mentioned LTD wheels with his disc brake conversion. What year LTD wheel?
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Never saw the car the LTD wheels came from but was given that information from the junkyard dealer. He said they came from a mid 70's LTD - that's all I know.

I always thought the LTD was a good source as an alternate wheel for a disc conversion but newer wheels are easier to find and probably cheaper - like Ford Ranger - put all the info that was stamped on my wheels in the disc brake conversion discussion. Scan through the discussion (might take a few days ) but has tons of info...... or search the forum archives on "disc".

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Old 12-18-2011, 12:33 AM
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...What year LTD wheel?
Any year that used disk brakes. Bronco's work too.
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I chose Cokers P225/75/14 Radials. They are very quiet & the handling is superb. How they wear I don't know as I've only had them for almost a year & only cover about 2K a year. The closest size to the originals is P215/75/14.

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Another consideration is the sidewall design. Before I bought my wheels, I was looking at wide white radials between Coker and Diamond Back. One of them had a raised black lip on the side wall just outside the white wall, the other did not. This would have protected the white wall in case you got too close to a curb. I don't remember which was which.

On sizes, the 215/75R14 radials are considered as a replacement for the 800-14s, but they are actually wider and almost an inch shorter. The 225/75R14 radials are considered replacements for the optional 850-14s, but they are also wider and shorter. Members have reported running both without issues.
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