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Brand new member, Robert ~ carnuts emailed me this question. He owns a 1960 Tbird.

"the car won't start with key I have to jump soleniod. There is a click when I turn the key to start,the click is right by the blower motor in a square box about the size of the regulater and has a circuit breaker attached. can I bypass this or what do you suggest?"
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:05 PM
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Sounds like he's talking about the power window relay. That shouldn't have anything to do with it not starting. Did he say if he changed out the solenoid. It's best to check the red-blue connection on the solenoid with a test light to see if it's getting voltage with the key on. It could be the neutral switch or as simple as the shifter not in park.

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Old 05-14-2011, 07:41 PM
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I don't think he is talking about the power window relay. I don't think he changed out the solenoid. I don't think he got that far yet. It could be that the shifter was not fully in park. He could try it in neutral, with the emergency brake on, and see if it starts. As you said, it could also be a problem with the neutral switch. Could it be a problem in the ignition switch? Maybe he will see this and give us some more information. Or perhaps what has been said so far might help him.
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If he's new to T-Birds it's probably just a sloppy shifter and he has to hold it up to start. Rarely have I had an ignition switch go bad but a test light on the solenoid or neutral switch will point him in the right direction. Since he's hearing a click it's getting power on the main yellow wire from the solenoid to the headlight switch.
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I experienced the same scenario Jopizz describes prior to installing my new detent plate and related items. The sloppy shifter needed to be in JUST the right place sometimes for the key to start 'er up.
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Matt and John are on the money, here... BUT...
We need a lot more detailed information. He says the car won't start, but he doesn't say if the engine turns over. Yes, the neutral switch may be out of adjustment from normal wear (as you guys mentioned).

We don't know if the dash has power. Do the headlights work?
If not, let us know and we'll go from there.
If you have lights, continue:

Does the Starter Relay 'click' when the key is turned? I haven't heard one way or another. Regardless, I have had worn out relays that did click but did not pass power.

We need proper troubleshooting practices. I would start with a 12-volt test light:

1). Check voltage at the solenoid's coil (Red/Blue wire) with the key turned to START and the shift lever in PARK.

If +12-volts is there, change the Starter Relay.
If not present, go to the neutral switch on the steering column. Check both Red/Blue wires (key turned to START and shifter in Park).

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you people are awsome,this is what i remember about people that love cars.Your suggestions where great.It now starts with the key.Never thought of the solenoid because the click didn't come from there but thats what it was.THANKS.A little back round on the car. It sat for 28 years and now I'm trying to get it back to life.I'm having a bit of a problem trying to figure out the 3 brackets for the gas pedal.I have 2 on but can't figure out how the return sring bracket goes on.(any ideas?)Everything is original and I never ran across so many vac.lines.Boy was that fun to try to figure out. Well THANKS again Bob
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Hey Robert,
The gas pedal bracket, are you talking about the throttle linkage on the intake?
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Hi Richard, Yes thats the one I'm talking about. Thanks Bob
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Bob, what engine do you have? Is it stock? What carb(s) are you running?

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