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Thankīs Ken. But I coldnīt opend them.
Will check at home tonight instead.

Edit: At home now, and the only thing I can say is: iMac RULES!

Article seems very, very interesting.
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Ken,
That was Gold information!
I was thinking of velding a tube inside the supportframe back to the nut ( that is nearly impossible to reach ) in order to supoort the bolt in for the upper control arm fromt bolt, bet decided to wait with it. But this what they did back in the days, and the access to the bolt, they found through the sheet metal behind the rear sieat. I will for sure try this if what I am doing at the moment donīt work. I already seems to have the big square support piece already anyway.
Never the less, A Great find by you, and I am realy happy you found it! Youīr the man!

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Thanks to Ken ~ GTE427 for providing those .pdf files. I have taken the liberty of putting them in the TRL. You will find them right under Suspension for future use!
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Just got my new "Isolators" back and thought I end the day by check how it now works. Then I did a new discovery, but finally, a good one. The length of the "sleeve" is of no interest! It does not matter if they are 2 1/2" or even 3" It only line up the two isolators and have nothing to do with travel or anything alse. Now I can finally leave them behind me!
My new big bolt is slightly longer than the old one and that give me just little more travel when the car is going up, but the best I found out is that when the suspension compress and the upper thin isolator got squeezed, thatīs the critical point! It is when this happend, the forces start to travel through the upper control arm into the front bolt.
Now, my new isolators are softer than original. By purpuse! The 50-year old one have dryed out and become harder during the years. We mesure them in the region of 85-90 shore, and the rubber company where I made the new one guessed that they should have been around 60 shore when new.
As those still created the problem as Kens files showed, and was not replaced by softer or thinner, in order to actualy avoid the problem ( Funny, the Service notice only said how to strengthen it where it breaks, but donīt show how to avoid the breaking... ), I vent for softer 45 shore, as these should help to increase the travel as they squeeze easier and therefore donīt lock the movement as rapid as harder shore would do. If that wonīt help, my next step will be to cut a thinner upper isolator, in order to increase the travel, as these thinner isolators are the one that decide where the suspension stops, or travel of the body, down direction ) . I got some extra material, so I can do this later.
I feel I now understand the suspension, and know what to adjust as soon as have the car back on wheels. I just hope itīs not only theoretical, but works in reality as well
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It's good to hear you got that figured out. good luck
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Too bad we all cant ask the original Ford engineer how it was supposed to work....

Just an example of how knowledge and technology can "vanish" over time if it isnt written down somewhere...

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What's in YOUR head now that could be lost forever when you're gone?
2 things:
1: I ainīt plan to go nowhere in a long time.
2. Someone might look this thread up in the future. Whatīs on the internet, stays on internet.
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I put those .pdf files and this Thread in the Technical Resource Library so tht future '58 Tbird owners could make good use of it. They won't have to re-invent the wheel to find out about that '58 suspension system!
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Thankīs Ken.
Glad to assist. Looks like you're well on our way to resolving this.

Now we know who to contact about the 58 rear suspension and where to get those 'Made In Sweden' suspension components.
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Here's a close-up picture of the left side of mine. I think you can figure out what all the dimensions are by looking at this picture.
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