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Old 07-20-2006, 12:05 PM
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having converted to disk brakes, is there anyone out there that would have any need of the old drums, and related parts that I took off ?
Also, I have now learned A LOT about installing high performance carbs on the 352 ( it was a HARD lesson ), so if anyone out there has done it, or thinking about it,I would have some advice for you, just ask.
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:42 PM
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I am rebuilding a 1959 Thunderbird 4100 now.

Tell us about your carburetor experiences.

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Old 07-20-2006, 01:49 PM
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Ok, here is what happened.
over the past year, I completely rebuilt the motor, from the motor mounts up. Everything, new or rebuilt, rewired, all done. the only thing was the carb. i wanted a little more than the original, so I bought a Holley, model 4150 double pumper. Everything that I could find, said it was a good fit for the 352. It was, and ran GREAT !
But..my mileage was HORRIBLE. After a while, I started to have some back firing thru the carb. And then, unfortunatley at a car show, after arriving and parking ( it was over 100 that day ), i decided to move it, jumped in, and it did not want to start. After about 20 sec, it did, but only ran about 5 sec, then died. THEN, there was smoke coming out from all around the hood. It had caused a carb fire, and the race was on to get it out, which we did ...VERY luckey the only thing ruined, was the air cleaner/filter.
what i found out, thru my VERY good mechanic, that there is a "power valve" in the carb ( I never heard of it before ), and although the carb is fine for the motor, THE POWER VALVE IS NOT ! It creates TO MUCH vacumm for these motors..which caused the carb to pull to much gas ( bad mileage, leaving to much gas in the carb after shut off, which caused the fire )as well as my wipers weren't working that well at all. He changed to a smaller power valve, and BINGO ! runs fine, mileage has jumped up ( will fill up again tommorrow, but i can tell it is MUCH better , and wipers working fine).
So, i just want to help someone else BEFORE they have a fire, the HP carbs are fine, but CHANGE the power valves.
So many of you are SO good to help all of us, i hope this helps in return.
Casey, if you read this, send me an email, I lost my address book when i got a new computer.
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Old 07-20-2006, 02:15 PM
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I don't know Dennis... you seem to be bad luck.
maybe you should just step away from the squarebird...very slowly now...easy does it....

Seriously though,
I am very glad you were able to extinguish the fire so quickly.

I emailed you with my contact info so we can discuss it off-board.

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Old 07-20-2006, 04:50 PM
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Hello,
I just installed the same carb on my 59. I have popping through the carb off the line and when I accerlate hard at about 25-35. I understand this to be a lean condtion. The vacuum and centrifical advance are working properly. I just changed to a pointless ignition.
This 4150 carb makes little vacuum at idle so I capped off the port for the vacuum advance on the carb and I plugged in the vacuum advance from the distributor into the air cleaner valve which is below the throttle plates (towards front of carb). This helped but I still have a mild popping. So now I have purchased a set of pump cams to deliver a richer mixture.

Have you used these before? and if so have they help solve the problem.
thanks for the post.


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Old 07-21-2006, 01:38 PM
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Is it possible to get the nuts that holds the wheel cylinders in place from your old drum set ill pay for them!
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:45 PM
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Well, actually, you are talking over my head. I can't answer that, but if you haven't changed that power valve, I would. Seems to have made everything better, would hate to see happen to you, what happened to me, if you could avoid it.
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:47 PM
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lockdown, i will see what is in the box, and let you know. you are welcome to them if they are there, i just haven't looked in the box since i picked it up from the garage.
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Sorry, the "talking over my head" response was for shorebird.
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Old 07-21-2006, 08:34 PM
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My 60 TB had a Holley 780 on it for years. Holley is not the product it once was. I believe they're made in Taiwan now . . . or the parts are.

I have had the best of luck with the Edelbrock AFB. Both my TB's have them. Total turnkey (elec/choke) No hessitation, no miss, no pop, just turn the key and go. Idle along all day or run W/O down the freeway. Awesome throttle responce. At 70 MPH (aprox) I average 16-17 MPG. Plus the configuration is similar to the Ford 4bbl. The big ol' air cleaner covers it if originality is an issue.

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