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  • Yellowbird
    Experienced

    • Jun 18 2009
    • 259

    #16
    Dave,
    Do you know what the theory was between using the mechanical (cable) and the mechanical vacuum type control?
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    • YellowRose
      Super-Experienced


      • Jan 21 2008
      • 17231

      #17
      Vacuum Line Routing

      I have just posted the article and pictures by Eric Taylor~DKheld in the Technical Resource Library (TRL). It is right above the Suspension section. Thank you very much for this addition, Eric. It should help many people in the future. As always, the link to the TRL is right below my signature element.

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      • simplyconnected
        Administrator
        • May 26 2009
        • 8787

        #18
        Originally posted by Yellowbird
        Dave,
        Do you know what the theory was between using the mechanical (cable) and the mechanical vacuum type control?
        Product Engineering and Product Development are two departments that try to employ better parts and more modern methods. Sometimes they revert back to 'tried and proven' traditional methods because of troubles. Coil Springs on the '58 Squarebird comes to mind.

        The trend was to use more vacuum to do non-critical work. We have seen Thunderbirds with extensive vacuum systems (like remote trunk release), then Ford backed off or used more electrical devices.

        The Lincoln Versailles (and other cars) had air bag suspension. Well? Where is it now? Squarebirds were supposed to get 'air' as well. Maybe it's a good thing they didn't.

        Leonard, your system IS the more modern method. Instead of putting the vacuum valve in the heater core, now it's normally in the engine compartment, but still vacuum operated. Does it matter? No. From the Company's view, 'which is cheaper?' Under the hood (with a dashboard vacuum switch instead of cables). I like the reliability of mechanical cables. They rarely ever go bad. - Dave
        Member, Sons of the American Revolution

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        "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
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        • Yellowbird
          Experienced

          • Jun 18 2009
          • 259

          #19
          Thanks for the information. It would make sense from a repair standpoint to move the valve outside to the engine compartment for ease of access.
          I have an may still have vehicles that had the vacuum operated "doors" for the a/c - heating system and what trouble they can be from time to time.
          Either the cable works or it does not........

          Thanks
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          • simplyconnected
            Administrator
            • May 26 2009
            • 8787

            #20
            Doors are a little different, Len. Those vacuum motors are two-stage (double diaphragm), or open-close (single diaphragm).

            In other words, the door can open half way or all the way with a double. This is a big savings over the electrical alternative. An example of this is the 'Floor/Panel' air door.

            Single diaphragm door vacuum motors are simply open or close, like heat/cool vac motors.

            I guess using a cable to do the same thing was out of vogue or Ford was trying to keep up with the Joneses. I see nothing wrong with the way our heater controls work with NO vacuum lines. Modern Door flap/seal material got better, though... I re-leathered the vent doors for my '55. They bring fresh air in from the front grille. - Dave
            Member, Sons of the American Revolution

            CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

            "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
            --Lee Iacocca

            From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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