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  • scumdog
    Super-Experienced

    • May 12 2006
    • 1528

    #16
    Update

    OK, now the days are longer at at times warmer I've got back into this project.

    I like things to not look they've been messed around with in the engine bay so I mounted the relay behind the windscreen-washer bag out of sight.

    I used a thin section of aluminium to mount the relay, the plate is held in place by the same screws that are holding the washer-bag beacket.

    Now another questions for you brain-boxes out there:

    I have a wire of reasonable diameter that runs from the side of the starter relay across to the drivers side under the top radiator support/cowl.

    It supplies power to the relays that give 12V to the coil and horn.

    Is it a Good Idea to tap into this wire for power to my headlight relay?

    Because:
    (a) It's handy, only 6" from relay.
    (b) It means if they ignition key is turned to 'off' the headlights are too - can't walk off and leave the lights on by mistake!

    Thoughts?
    Reasons maybe NOT to do this?
    A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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    • redstangbob
      Experienced
      • Feb 18 2011
      • 220

      #17
      Are you talking about the green/red wire going to the voltage regulator? If so, you're defeating your purpose IMO. Why not run a new FUSED black wire from the start relay hot lug to power the new relay(s). It won't look too out of place. Good luck, Bob C

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      • scumdog
        Super-Experienced

        • May 12 2006
        • 1528

        #18
        Originally posted by redstangbob
        Are you talking about the green/red wire going to the voltage regulator? If so, you're defeating your purpose IMO. Why not run a new FUSED black wire from the start relay hot lug to power the new relay(s). It won't look too out of place. Good luck, Bob C
        Thanks redstangob, however the wire I thought of using is the one I already have that comes from the 'hot lug' you mentioned.
        And the relay which is kinda like a two-in-one relay for high & low beam has a fuse for each circuit built-in.
        A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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        • scumdog
          Super-Experienced

          • May 12 2006
          • 1528

          #19
          OKAY!
          Done and dusted - fitted the relay, did all the wiring and made on loom and at all works! woo-hoo!
          AND you can't tell it's all there unless you look carefully.

          Took heaps of pics and will post them as soon as the lovely Mrs Scumdogg shows me how - I'll also post details in case anybody else wants to do the same.

          NOW to get the CVT out and replace it - I need 'Instructions for Dummies" type info on how to get the CVT out - I can see the sucker, get my hand on it but not able to detach it.

          I have taken off the 'wood'-grain panel that runs from the steering column to the console and I have taken out the panel that mounts the clock/wiper switch etc.

          But it looks like I might have to take out the speedometer housing - how do I do THAT???
          A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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          • scumdog
            Super-Experienced

            • May 12 2006
            • 1528

            #20
            Well!
            THAT was a waste of time - all that torture and my guages STILL read wrong - in fact it looks like they peg-out even quicker than before!

            Except the fuel guage which still seems to be asleep for the first 10 miles or so...

            Any ideas why they behave this way?

            A faulty brand-new CVT?

            OR?
            A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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            • simplyconnected
              Administrator
              • May 26 2009
              • 8787

              #21
              I'm sure you used your volt meter to measure the regulator's output before you started... What voltage did you read?
              Member, Sons of the American Revolution

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              "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
              --Lee Iacocca

              From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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              • scumdog
                Super-Experienced

                • May 12 2006
                • 1528

                #22
                Originally posted by simplyconnected
                I'm sure you used your volt meter to measure the regulator's output before you started... What voltage did you read?
                Uh-oh Dave, I goofed and never even thought about the multimeter - I did that bad thing and 'assumed' th eold CVT was bad...dang!

                (looks like there's going to be some unscrewing of self-tappers again..)
                A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                • simplyconnected
                  Administrator
                  • May 26 2009
                  • 8787

                  #23
                  That Multimeter can save you lots of unnecessary pain and time.

                  • Use the DC scale for measuring voltage on live wires.
                  • Use the OHM scale to measure resistance on dead wires or car body. <--This will indicate if your grounds are good (like on your fuel tank). Lower numbers (resistance) mean a better ground.
                  Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                  CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                  "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                  --Lee Iacocca

                  From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                  • scumdog
                    Super-Experienced

                    • May 12 2006
                    • 1528

                    #24
                    Originally posted by simplyconnected
                    That Multimeter can save you lots of unnecessary pain and time.

                    • Use the DC scale for measuring voltage on live wires.
                    • Use the OHM scale to measure resistance on dead wires or car body. <--This will indicate if your grounds are good (like on your fuel tank). Lower numbers (resistance) mean a better ground.
                    So...one wire going into CVT would be 12V and the other SHOULD be???
                    A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                    • simplyconnected
                      Administrator
                      • May 26 2009
                      • 8787

                      #25
                      The old regulators used contacts that opened and closed, giving an AVERAGE of six volts. Your meter will see it as 12-volts, then zero, then 12-volts, etc.

                      The newer solid state regulators output a real six volts DC.

                      The regulator's case needs a good electrical connection to the body.
                      Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                      CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                      "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                      --Lee Iacocca

                      From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                      • redstangbob
                        Experienced
                        • Feb 18 2011
                        • 220

                        #26
                        Is this a replacement CVR? Is it an original type or a solid state type? The original types sold by the vendors are Chinese JUNK! I say that after much experience. There's a few ways to go solid state, and that's the only way to go. Google it, you'll find the answer. Good luck, Bob C

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