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Old 04-21-2012, 03:54 AM
philbird60 philbird60 is offline
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Default steering box rebuild or upgrade

Got a '60 tbird, and the steering box has a lot of play in it.
I can rebuild it, but I'd kind of like to put close-ratio guts in it if I'm going to tear into it. Anyone know of some swap parts. or if an aftermarket company sells parts that will give me fewer turns lock-to-lock?
THanks!
Phil
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:30 AM
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Got a '60 tbird, and the steering box has a lot of play in it.

I can rebuild it, but I'd kind of like to put close-ratio guts in it if I'm going to tear into it. Anyone know of some swap parts. or if an aftermarket company sells parts that will give me fewer turns lock-to-lock?

THanks!

Phil
Interesting Post!

There is an GM Saginaw box switchover kit but stay away from it (deletes BENDIX hydraulic system).

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Fords present a unique problem, because both Ford's own manual and power steering gearboxes were the same gearbox until the mid-to-late 1960s. Ford's power steering consisted of the manual gearbox with a control valve attached to the end of the center link and a power cylinder, similar to a hydraulic shock absorber or ram unit.

These gearboxes were available in 16.0:1 or 20.0:1 ratios, and in either a 1-inch or a 1-1/8-inch steering shaft diameter. Units on some models from 1964-'67 still incorporated the long steering shaft that went up inside the steering column. The same type of unit was used in the earlier Fords of the 1950s and early '60s with non-collapsible steering columns. The later Ford units used a separate steering shaft and rag joint-type coupler set-up from 1967 on, similar to the GMs.
I would like to research this subject. There may be an answer all ready but most will go to a later box design or rack changeover.

You will first need the steering box info (build info) off the tag attached to the box (hopefully) to see what you have and where to start.
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:05 AM
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Here's a consideration-

http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/home.php?cat=117

This eliminates the BENDIX steering linkage.

Do you want to keep the car original or slightly modified?
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Old 04-21-2012, 05:42 PM
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Default interesting, and thanks!

I'm definitely hoping to retain the oem power assist setup, and either just swap the box, or the guts. I'm gonna keep poking around.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:55 AM
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the play is all in the gear? You may find most of your play is in the power assist cylinder, and the Idler arm and tie rod ends. Unless the gear bearings are bad it may be fine. On my 60 the the case was almost dry, but after adjusting the bearings and pumping the case full of general purpose grease (not gear lube). Then I adjusted the play out of the sector (The slotted screw with the jamb nut) and it functioned perfectly. Worth a shot unless you have already eliminated those possibilities. Mike
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:05 AM
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the play is all in the gear? You may find most of your play is in the power assist cylinder, and the Idler arm and tie rod ends.
Gospel Spoken Here!

There is a multitude of bushings, ball joints and control valve settings that can lead to slop on this system in addition to steering linkage(s) conditions.

Also consider pump pressure/volume output and reservoir filter condition.

GOOGLE- FORD BENDIX LINKAGE POWER STEERING

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