Oil volume and dipstick length

[YellowRose]

Oil volume and dipstick length

Thanks, John! I have used the top figures and changed the TRL accordingly, also adding the CM figures to it for those who use that form of measurement. I notice that in the Bird Nest catalog, there is a different part # listed for the 430MEL dip stick. So that might have different measurements. I did not know that there was a chrome dipstick version for the engine dress up kit. It would be nice to have one to add to my engine dress up kit! I wonder where I would find one?

[jopizz]

With all the swap meets I've been to over the years I've never seen one so they must be pretty rare. If Carl or Bob's doesn't have one then they're really hard to find.

John

[Yadkin]

Let me make a suggestion here. The critical dimension is the length of dipstick below the mounting flange on the block. Mounting tube length can vary with options, such as AC and of course year. So you need to tell this guy how long your stick is, and subtract the tube length between the block mounting surface and it's top.

[Yadkin]

....I did not know that there was a chrome dipstick version for the engine dress up kit. It would be nice to have one to add to my engine dress up kit! I wonder where I would find one?

When I bought my Moroso oil pan it came with one, but the upper clip was welded on and in the wrong place. I cut it off and was going to epoxy it on, but decided to just get a new one. Summit racing has a good selection. I ended up with a brushed stainless one with a stainless braided hose for about $60.

[Yadkin]

With all the swap meets I've been to over the years I've never seen one so they must be pretty rare. If Carl or Bob's doesn't have one then they're really hard to find.

John

They "weld" themselves to the block and then get broken when removed. That's what happened to mine anyway.

[Rock&Roll Firebird]

Let me make a suggestion here. The critical dimension is the length of dipstick below the mounting flange on the block. Mounting tube length can vary with options, such as AC and of course year. So you need to tell this guy how long your stick is, and subtract the tube length between the block mounting surface and it's top.

Thank you, this is exactly what would help! Unless I have this info and can surely say how much oil really is in the engine, I rather not run with the car.

[Rock&Roll Firebird]

Do you have the correct filter. It should be a Motorcraft FL-1 or equivalent...

John

I installed the Motorcraft FL-1A filter.

[Rock&Roll Firebird]

Ray,

My dipstick measurements are about the same as yours.

19 7/8 to end
18 1/8 to add
17 to full.

I know for sure that mine is original. It also does not have any Ford markings.

John

Got to measure my dipstick and tube lengths:

20" to end
18,35" to add
17,3" to full

...so very close to your numbers.

The oil tube length from it's end to the block is about 9,4". If you could manage to measure your oil tube leghths, that would be very helpful to me as I could then see the metering parts state.

Another question is the oil pan. The strange thing is that I ordered the magnetic drain plug from Mac's (for a '59 TB) and it did not fit - was too narrow. So either the hollow for the plug was remanufactured in the past or there is a replaced oil pan (looks pretty vintage and used though). Any idea how to say wether the oil pan is original or not? Or where to get the original oil pan's measures?

[Yadkin]

Someone may have cross-threaded or screwed-up the pan threads, then drilled and oversized hole and threaded that. Your local parts store should have a large selection of drain plugs with various diameters and threads, both metric and SAE.

[Rock&Roll Firebird]

Someone may have cross-threaded or screwed-up the pan threads, then drilled and oversized hole and threaded that. Your local parts store should have a large selection of drain plugs with various diameters and threads, both metric and SAE.

Yes, that may be the case. Still I'd rather be sure about the oil pan's measures / origin.

[Yadkin]

Yes, that may be the case. Still I'd rather be sure about the oil pan's measures / origin.

My pan is original '64 390 and in good shape, and I cleaned it up and painted it, but my engine builder insisted that I use at least a 6 quart pan, so it's sitting on the shelf. The plug is 1/2" x 20 threads, 7/8 nut. The depth of the pan is about 6.5".

Have you taken yours out yet? I'd suggest doing so, since when I did that 20 years ago it had a thick layer of sludge on the bottom.

[Rock&Roll Firebird]

Have you taken yours out yet? I'd suggest doing so, since when I did that 20 years ago it had a thick layer of sludge on the bottom.

Not yet, planning to do so in few weeks time. A bit afraid what I might find in there... But definitely looking forward to clean it out!