This will take you to the main site where there is history, technical information and other information on these cars.
This takes you back to the main page of the forums.
This is the control panel to change your password, information and preferences on this message board.
Click here if your lost your password or need to register on this message board. You must be a registered user to post. Registration is free.
Search this board for information you need.
Click here to buy cool Squarebirds mechandise.
Click here to support For $20 annually receive 20mBytes webspace, a Squarebirds e-mail address and member's icon on the message board.
Old 09-09-2010, 06:58 PM
Rob Sumowski Rob Sumowski is offline
Join Date: Aug 21 2010
Posts: 21
Rob Sumowski is on a distinguished road
Default Fresh Air Vents 1958

Greetings to all,

I am wondering if anyone can help me understand the operation of the fresh air vent on a 1958 Bird with no air conditioning. I have found scant information about this system online. I would like to use these vents but the previous owner had the vents completely taped over. Of course, I can remove this, but am wondering if it might just allow hot engine compartment air to come into the cabin.

A manual I saw on this site talked about fresh air coming in through the grill and then being transferred to the cabin. Are there supposed to be some kind of intake or transfer hoses connected from the grill to the fresh air vents? If so, I haven't seen any in any of my squarebird catalogs and I can't find any such ducts or hoses on the car. Also, how does this system operate once the heater gets turned on in the winter? Will heat come from these vents, as well? What role, if any, does the heater core play?

Because I don't have air and we're in Georgia, I wouldn't mind getting some extra airflow, even if it is from outside of the long as it isn't engine compartment heat. I know the windows and vent windows do a pretty good job providing exterior airflow for the shoulder and head area when I'm driving, but the lower compartment definitely gets warm.

I would appreciate any advice on what the purpose and function are supposed to be for these fresh air vents, as well as any solutions or suggestions for parts to make them operable.

Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2010, 07:15 PM
Anders's Avatar
Anders Anders is offline
Join Date: Jan 19 2008
Posts: 2,165
Anders is on a distinguished road

Isnīt "Fresh Air" intake the ones under the dash just in front of the doors?
..."Lil darling Ruth"
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2010, 08:07 PM
Rob Sumowski Rob Sumowski is offline
Join Date: Aug 21 2010
Posts: 21
Rob Sumowski is on a distinguished road

Yes. Those are the vents I'm talking about. Thanks!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2010, 10:15 PM
Astrowing Astrowing is offline
Join Date: Jul 22 2009
Posts: 478
Astrowing is on a distinguished road

Those of us that have AC-equipped cars in the South that isn't working yet are also very interested
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 03:54 AM
gaffney1951 gaffney1951 is offline
Join Date: May 29 2007
Posts: 553
gaffney1951 is on a distinguished road
Default Fresh air vents ...

fresh air comes in from the cowl (the area at the base of the windshield). when I installed A/C in my 60 I had to lose the one on the passenger side but kept the one on the driver side operational for those just right weather conditions. They probably taped it shut because the door wasn't sealing right. You may have to remove it and do a little rehab work on it. Mike
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 03:53 PM
tbird430's Avatar
tbird430 tbird430 is offline
Join Date: Jun 18 2007
Posts: 2,625
tbird430 is on a distinguished road

And the heater air DOES NOT flow from these vents.


The 1960 Ford Thunderbird. The WORLD'S most wanted car....

VTCI Member#6287.
Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 04:33 PM
Yellowbird Yellowbird is offline
Join Date: Jun 18 2009
Posts: 258
Yellowbird is on a distinguished road

If the vents are taped over, do you still have the lever assembly to open and close the vents? My '58 does not have a/c and these vents sure do help in the summer!

Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 06:02 PM
Rob Sumowski Rob Sumowski is offline
Join Date: Aug 21 2010
Posts: 21
Rob Sumowski is on a distinguished road


Yes, it appears that I do have the levers and everything looks to be in good shape. Though they aren't rusted, I can't yet make them move, so they might just need some liquid wrench.

Is there a tube or duct that connects these vents to the cowl?

Thanks guys!

Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 12:11 PM
Dan Leavens's Avatar
Dan Leavens Dan Leavens is offline
Moderator / Administrator
Join Date: Oct 4 2006
Posts: 4,993
Dan Leavens is on a distinguished road

Rob yes some liquid wrench would certainly free up the mechanism which apparently hasn't been used much. On the 58 the vent knob is pulled straight out and that little black ball is attached to the vent shaft.Think of this, as a small plate door with a spring attached that when you pull out it activates the open position. This can come off from time to time, as it was a poor design and I put some " gorilla glue" ( or some other form of expoxy ) in the ball opening going back on the shaft and it is secure.The other suggestion is to try it several times and shoot some liquid wrench alond the shaft until the mechanism works smoothly. I did several applications on my wife's 58 over the course of a weekend and now it works pretty slick.
Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
Thunderbird Registry
58HT #33317
60 HT (Sold )
Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 03:47 PM
JohnG's Avatar
JohnG JohnG is offline
Join Date: Jul 28 2003
Posts: 2,294
JohnG is on a distinguished road

You mean you can now open the vent without laying on the ground with both hands on that little bitty black ball and your right foot pushing on the front tire ??? This is really good news for me!!!
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:06 AM.

Driving, racing or working on cars can be hazardous. The procedures and advice on this website including the message board are opinion only. and its webmasters and contributors do not guarantee the correctness of the advice and procedures. The and its webmasters assume no liability for any damage, fines, punishment, injury or death resulting from following these procedures or advice. If you do not have the skills or tools to repair your car, please consult a professional. By using this site you agree to hold harmless the, its authors and its webmasters from any resulting claim and costs that may occur from using the information found on this site.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Any submissions to this site and any post on this site becomes property of . The webmasters reserve the right to edit and modify any submissions to this site. All material on this is site is copyrighted by the Reproduction by any means other than for personal use is strictly prohibited. Permission to use material on this site can be obtained by contacting the webmasters. Copyright 2002-2016 by