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Old 10-01-2018, 06:38 PM
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Hey everyone, I am trying to wire my fender top indicators to the front turn signals because they keep freezing up when I have to much electricity running in my car.
OK, I know which wires to work with, but I'm not sure, do I wire from the white wire from the plug to the fender indicator wire or do I wire from the black wire or both, I have tried from both and still the fender indicators keep freezing up, am I doing something wrong? Any help would be much appreciated. I am using T-Tab wire splicers to make the connections. Thanks again!
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:15 PM
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You want to tie the fender indicators into the white-blue (R) and green-white (L) wires from the front turn signals.

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Where are those wires located, are they near the starter sylinoid??
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It looks like the right wire is blue and yellow, is that possible? The left one is green and white.

I did tie the blue and yellow wire to the black wire that come out of the fender with the small plug, but still the fender indicator freezes up when alot of accessories are on. What could I be doing wrong, possibly the splicers are not making good contact with the wire?
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I'm going by the wiring diagram. It says white-blue for the passenger side but they could've changed it. If the indicators still freeze up then it could be the ground. The bulb grounds using the body of the indicator to the body of the car. There is no separate ground wire. A bad ground could cause the light to freeze when the voltage drops slightly due to increased load. That's my guess. The lights should work as designed without jumping the wiring. That's the way they left the factory.

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If the fender indicators are properly wired to the front turn signals could a bad ground cause the freezing still?
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If the fender indicators are properly wired to the front turn signals could a bad ground cause the freezing still?
Yes, because no matter where they are wired to they still don't have a ground wire. They depend on a solid and clean connection between the indicator body and the body of the car. You are not fixing the ground problem by connecting them to the front turn signals.

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Yes, because no matter where they are wired to they still don't have a ground wire. They depend on a solid and clean connection between the indicator body and the body of the car. You are not fixing the ground problem by connecting them to the front turn signals.

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John, on the '66 models they started to attach a ground wire from one of the fender mounting bolts to the inside of the engine bay just inside the hole of the inner fender and then grounded with a screw. Wire should be black .
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I've worked on alot of Flairbirds and I can't say I've ever seen a ground wire attached to the fender indicators. Maybe it was a TSB and only got installed on some. The last '66 I had definitely did not have them.

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There is a wire that is attached to the inside fender wall that does look like a ground screw and it is a black wire, It is just outside a hole, to the left of it. I will take that off and give it a good cleaning and see what happens. Thanks!
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