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  • WIZZO
    Newbie
    • Mar 18 2014
    • 4

    Fuel leak, please help!

    Hey guys, new to the forum, and I just got my 63 from my dad, who had done very little to it for a good while. It was my mom's first car.

    I've got a fuel leak that's coming from the rubber hose that's behind the front left wheel-well liner. Problem is, I can't seem to figure out how to pull that liner off without taking the entire fender off. The lines on the car are pretty good, so I don't really want to go screwing the alignment up if I can keep from it. I've searched as best I could through the threads for solutions, but to no avail. Any recommendations for getting that liner out without pulling the fender would be very much appreciated. Thanks much.
    Last edited by WIZZO; March 19, 2014, 11:12 AM. Reason: addition
  • jopizz
    Super-Experienced


    • Nov 23 2009
    • 8317

    #2
    You don't need to remove the fender. The splash shield is bolted to the inner firewall, outer fender and underneath. The bolts are usually covered with undercoating so they may be tough to see.

    John
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    • WIZZO
      Newbie
      • Mar 18 2014
      • 4

      #3
      Originally posted by jopizz
      You don't need to remove the fender. The splash shield is bolted to the inner firewall, outer fender and underneath. The bolts are usually covered with undercoating so they may be tough to see.
      John, Thanks so much for the quick reply. I didn't expect such a fast response. I've been looking at the shop manuals both on CD and paperback. If you went with the CD, does it allow you to save the files as a PDF, so I'd be able to put it on a tablet? Thanks so much for the reply.

      Jace

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      • jopizz
        Super-Experienced


        • Nov 23 2009
        • 8317

        #4
        The one shop manual I have on CD is in PDF format. However it's protected so I can't copy pages or convert it to another format. I can print out pages but that's about it.

        John
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        • YellowRose
          Super-Experienced


          • Jan 21 2008
          • 17191

          #5
          Fuel leak, please help!

          John! I really like your personal avatar that Dave did for you! That is really cool!

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          • jopizz
            Super-Experienced


            • Nov 23 2009
            • 8317

            #6
            Ray,

            I like it too. I thought Dave was making a special one for you also.

            John
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            • YellowRose
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              • Jan 21 2008
              • 17191

              #7
              Fuel leak, please help!

              If he is, he has not said anything to me! He put that comment on about me several weeks ago though!

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              • simplyconnected
                Administrator
                • May 26 2009
                • 8779

                #8
                Here is your fuel run. Click on the picture for a printable copy:
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                • WIZZO
                  Newbie
                  • Mar 18 2014
                  • 4

                  #9
                  Thanks Simplyconnected. This helps a lot. I got the wheelwell liner off last night and that short bit of fuel hose was badly dry rotted.

                  My dad just put a new fuel pump in and replaced the supply line to the pump a couple of weeks before I got the car. So next I'm gonna drop the tank and replace the fuel hose coming out of the top of the tank.

                  I haven't done much searching on this, but what's the best way to clean out the fuel tank? I figure I might as well clean it up since I'll have it down anyway.

                  Thanks for all the help gents.

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                  • YellowRose
                    Super-Experienced


                    • Jan 21 2008
                    • 17191

                    #10
                    Fuel leak, please help!

                    Hi Jason, if you are gonna drop the gas tank, and try to clean it out, you just might consider buying a new one instead and saving yourself some future problems. The coating inside that tank is probably long gone by now, if that is the original tank. To try to save money, I did drop my tank and had it cleaned out professionally. It lasted for maybe a year and then developed a leak. So I ended up buying a new one anyway. Here is one (of several offers) on eBay that is made by the Canadian company that makes all the Tbird tanks. A new tank should last you for many years. One that you try to clean out, probably not to long, like mine. If you buy a new tank, drill a hole in one of the flanges and run a ground wire to the body. Make sure you don't drill into the tank!

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-1961-196...baaeea&vxp=mtr

                    You might as well buy a new gas sending unit also, especially if that is the original one in the tank. Here is one.

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-1963-Th...330a53&vxp=mtr

                    Also check Rock Auto and see what their prices are for these two items. To do some price comparison, check the Advertisements Forum and visit the websites of some of our Tbird parts houses who also sell these items. In fact, call or email them and ask for their free catalogs. You are gonna need them, and also a shop manual for your car if you do not have one. The electrical wiring diagrams for it are in the Technical Resource Library, the link to which is at the bottom of my signature element.

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                    • jopizz
                      Super-Experienced


                      • Nov 23 2009
                      • 8317

                      #11
                      I agree with Ray on getting a new tank and sender. Completely cleaning out a fifty year old gas tank is nearly impossible. All you will be doing is knocking yourself out wondering why your car is constantly running rough and stalling out. This is one area where it pays to buy new.

                      John
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                      • simplyconnected
                        Administrator
                        • May 26 2009
                        • 8779

                        #12
                        Rockauto.com
                        SPECTRA PREMIUM / COOLING DEPOT Part # F36 {#C2SZ9002A} Lock Ring Kit Included
                        33-7/8" x 23-5/8" x 8-3/4"
                        $158.79 + shipping (call them for an exact price at 608-661-1376)
                        Spectra is Canadian and good quality. I have two.
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                        • GeoffInCarlsbad
                          Experienced
                          • Jul 4 2015
                          • 206

                          #13
                          Leak at Fuel Pump Fitting

                          It looks like I have a leak at the fitting that feeds the fuel line to the fuel filter. Before I start trying to turn, is the fitting into the fuel filter fitting a reverse-thread fitting? I am unsure which fitting is the leak source, so I want to undo each and see if I can get a little teflon tape on them (very carefully of course) or would I be better off with lock-tight (blue)?

                          Geoff In Carlsbad
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                          • jopizz
                            Super-Experienced


                            • Nov 23 2009
                            • 8317

                            #14
                            No, it's not a reverse thread. I would try teflon tape first. Also check the flare on your fuel line and see if it is burred.

                            John
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                            • GeoffInCarlsbad
                              Experienced
                              • Jul 4 2015
                              • 206

                              #15
                              Fuel Leak at Fuel Pump

                              This is the compression fitting the fuel line plugs in to. I cleaned out a whole lot of crud, put teflon tape on the threads and reattached to fuel pump. I then put the fuel line back on into this fitting. Good news is the leak at the pump was stopped, but the leak at the compression fitting (fuel line into fitting) still leaks. I checked the flare, and it looks/feels ok. No burrs, but I cannot get a seal.

                              So, my question is: Is there supposed to be in o-ring in the fitting? If I cannot get a seal, I then suspect either a new fitting (easiest) or a new fuel line is in order because the flare just won't seat (harder). I am going first for a new fitting.

                              I guess another question is do I need that fitting or can the fuel line go directly into the fuel pump? I cannot find a picture or drawing that indicates.



                              Geoff In Carlsbad
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