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...BTW, it is very common for a rusty rim to develop yet another rim leak later on down the road as rust re-establishes itself...
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If you read the entire thread you will see that Dean replaced the rusty rim a with a new rim and the problem is with the tire bead, not the rim.

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Yes John but I wasn't talking about HIS rim. I was talking about ANY rusty rim. It's still a common occurrence. I've seen this happen to alloy wheels as well. Once corrosion starts, that rotary wire brush they use at the tire store doesn't help for long. They still try cleaning the rim and they still remount the same tire on it. - Dave
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Lets hope that Dean can get some money back from Tire Rack for damaging his tire so this whole discussion becomes a moot point.

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I apologize if I led anyone to believe it was the Tire Rack who mounted these tires. I thought I said this local shop was recommended by Tire Rack in their website. I have purchased Winter tires for my daily driver from Tire Rack and had these mounted by this same local shop, also.This incident will cut ties with the shop.

If I were Coker or their insurance adjuster, I'd realize the claimant, me, is probably not any percentage at fault. Knowing it's a $250 product liability claim that could lead to injury, I would replace the tire after talking to claimant (me), have the defective tire inspected by my field representative, and try to determine if the shop was at fault through documenting their mounting procedures. Then I'd tell my superiors if the insurance carrier for the shop will not reimburse us, it not worth the T&E pursuing a $250 claim.

I wish more adjusters thought like me. Many will incur thousands of dollars in expenses defending a loser claim.

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Where is the concern? ................... Again, I wouldn't worry about it until you come to that bridge.Dave[/quote]

............OR DITCH!!!!!!!!!!

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Where is the concern? ................... Again, I wouldn't worry about it until you come to that bridge.Dave
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The tire is still under warranty. That alone should start to address my issues before we even get to product liability and negligence.

Some members of this forum see it your way and some think a bogus bead is unacceptable. I got time.

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Dave, your RTV worked!

The bead was damaged badly where it was leaking. When I suggested to the shop owner this might result from not mounting the tire inside up, they said their machine couldn't mount it that way due to the wheel's inherent design. It must mount this wheel outside up. Somebody's wrong here.
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There's a reason the shop manual says to mount and dismount the tires with the outside of the wheel DOWN. If you've been doing it the opposite way and haven't damaged your tires then you're lucky. I've seen many tires ruined doing it that way.

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And what reason is that?
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Read this thread, post #6. Carl explains it perfectly.

http://squarebirds.org/vbulletin/sho...=tire+mounting

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So we should presume all cars with this wheel must be mounted inside up? Very few shops would know that, and I didn't know enough at the time. I certainly can't show when damage occurred for certain, but the thing speaks for itself.

Coker answered me and has placed probable blame on the shop in my case. The shop says they didn't damage the tire. Again since warranty, product liability, and negligence apply here, the burden shifts to the manufacturer.

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So we should presume all cars with this wheel must be mounted inside up? Very few shops would know that, and I didn't know enough at the time.
Unless you've been changing tires for the past 50 years you probably wouldn't know it. All the "old timers" around here that have been changing tires for decades know it. I don't even have to tell them.

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