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  • squid
    Newbie
    • Oct 30 2018
    • 6

    430 to FE swap

    my 59 has a 430 suffering from a rod knock. I dont want this car sitting around while i save for the 430 rebuild. I have a fresh 390 motor available to swap in place of the 430. Im not so worried about the plumbing and electrical. My concern is the engine mounts and what i may need to make the 390 mount up correctly to the frame. etc.

    any and all advice and direction is greatly appreciated

    Jay
  • YellowRose
    Super-Experienced


    • Jan 21 2008
    • 17191

    #2
    430 to FE swap

    Jay, it is my understanding that 430MEL engine mounts are different than those for a 352 or 390 FE engine. John ~ jopizz should be able to comment on this in the morning when he is back on the Forum.

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    • jopizz
      Super-Experienced


      • Nov 23 2009
      • 8316

      #3
      Here's the link to the Technical Resource Library showing the 430 motor mount bracket. The bracket is welded to the frame and bolted to the existing FE motor mount bracket. You will have to remove these to install the 390.

      This site has technical and historical information for 1955-1966 Thunderbirds


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      • squid
        Newbie
        • Oct 30 2018
        • 6

        #4
        thank you john!

        the link to the mount diagrams is awesome. thank you ! . you are a life saver! for my tbird that is ( :

        i send an update when i get it rolling again!

        then ill address the 430 rebuild.....

        jay

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        • jopizz
          Super-Experienced


          • Nov 23 2009
          • 8316

          #5
          You're welcome Jay. Glad I could help you out.

          John
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          • Derbird
            • Jul 10 2016
            • 177

            #6
            If you decide to put the 430 back in later, I the 59 block should be setup to use the fe mounts also.

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            • squid
              Newbie
              • Oct 30 2018
              • 6

              #7
              RE : derbird 430 using FE mounts

              i had not thought about that. what kind of set up is required to put the 430 on the FE mounts? Is there a disadvantage in doing so ?

              also, will the 430 exhaust manifolds fit the FE heads ?
              Last edited by squid; November 3, 2018, 06:05 PM.

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              • jopizz
                Super-Experienced


                • Nov 23 2009
                • 8316

                #8
                Originally posted by squid
                also, will the 430 exhaust manifolds fit the FE heads ?
                In a word, no.

                John
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