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  • Guest

    I have both of the hard lines for the transmission that run into the radiator. This was hooked up to one side of the firewall where I guess the wiper motor gets fluid from

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    • Yadkin
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      • Aug 11 2012
      • 1905

      Looks like a previous owner put a cooler in the.power steering line. It's not needed.

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      • Yadkin
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        • Aug 11 2012
        • 1905

        Check your hoses and lines. The pump high pressure goes to the steering box, then the wiper motor. Both lines should be high quality, factory made sets as sold by several vendors, or made up by a specialist. The return from the wiper motor to the pump can be made with fuel line type hose and hose clamps.

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        • Guest

          Alright, so now my issue is that on the proportioning valve the rear outlet that goes to the drum brakes is bigger than all of the other outlets. I think the rear is 9/16 but I only bought 3/16 line because I thought that was what the whole car used.the only adapter I found was from 3/16 female up to 9/16 male. Not the other way around which I need

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          • simplyconnected
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            • May 26 2009
            • 8787

            Originally posted by simplyconnected
            All the lines are 3/16" tubing. We use the same tubing for modern metric brake line as well.
            All the fittings will be either 3/8"-24 or 7/16"-24 IFF (inverted flare fittings) with a 3/16" hole. These are common sizes, available at nearly all auto parts stores.

            You will buy the male ends, we call '3/8" IFF nuts or 7/16" IFF nuts' Manufacturers used different size ports so the guy on the assembly line could not put the wrong nut in the wrong port. The following picture shows 3/8" brass IFF nuts with adapters in all the ports:
            ...
            So... you need adapters. Yes, the rear port on a GM-type combination valve is 9/16". Like the picture shows, you need a 9/16" to 3/8" IFF adapter (bushing). They still take 3/16" brake line. For the top ports, I simply use 7/16"-24 IFF nuts (for 3/16" tube) that your auto parts store should have. If they don't, I think I have a few in steel.

            Off the top of my head I can't remember (imagine that) if the 9/16" port is a tapered pipe or IFF. Look down the hole. If it has a cone at the bottom it is IFF.
            IF IT DOES have a cone: You need a 9/16" IFF MALE to 3/8" IFF FEMALE adapter. Let me know. - Dave

            Edit: I see O'Reilly's has them:http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...1415&ppt=C0267
            Last edited by simplyconnected; November 4, 2015, 12:55 PM. Reason: To clarify ports on the picture
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            • Guest

              I didn't see where it listed the adapters I would need in the pic, sorry. Thanks again for the help. And the 9/16 does have a cone in the bottom of it

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              • simplyconnected
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                • May 26 2009
                • 8787

                If you click on the link the adapter should come right up. O'Reilly's Part # 258303.


                Edelmann - Hydraulic Brake Fitting

                Line: EDE | Part # 258303
                1 year limited warranty
                UPC: 21597604563
                Adapter-Standard To Dual Master Cylinder - 3/16 Inch Tube - 3/8-24 Female Inverted Flare Seat x 9/16-20 Male Inverted Flare
                Thread Size End 1: 3/8-24 Inch
                Thread Size End 2: 9/16-20 Inch
                Line Size (In): 3/16 Inch

                Detailed Description:
                Adapter-Standard To Dual Master Cylinder - 3/16" Tube - 3/8-24 Female Inverted Flare Seat x 9/16-20 Male Inverted Flare
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                • Guest

                  thanks for finding that for me. im gonna go by there tomorrow and get all the adapters

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                  • simplyconnected
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                    • May 26 2009
                    • 8787

                    The 7/16"-24 IFF nut is the hard one to find. All the auto parts stores have them mounted on pre-length 3/16" tubing so I would think they also carry just the nut. NOPE. They have adapters instead.

                    One good size store I frequent had two... in steel. I have re-used my old ones in the past. - Dave
                    Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                    CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                    "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                    --Lee Iacocca

                    From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                    • Guest


                      Is this the right one, because it doesn't say -24 on it. I have a fastenal right down the road from work

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                      • simplyconnected
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                        • May 26 2009
                        • 8787

                        I was cruising eBay when I ran across this...

                        The price is right at a buck each.
                        Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                        CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                        "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                        --Lee Iacocca

                        From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                        • Guest

                          Thanks, if I can't get them locally I'll be ordering those

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                          • Guest

                            Found all brass adapters at Napa. Went to four other auto parts stores and they had nothing. Didn't get to work on the car this weekend though because of weather and family plans. I think I've got all the parts though to redo my whole brake system now

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                            • Guest

                              Also wanted to let you guys know that I ordered the power brake booster for a 67 thunderbird and it is identical to the one that came off my car and cost 60 bucks less than the one rock auto had listed for the 65. Mine had the bendix booster, so if anyone else with the bendix needs a replacement they can save a little money by getting the 67

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