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Kim & Theo van Heel de Kok of The Netherlands have been working on repairing their clock in their 1959 Squarebird. In doing so, they have been recording their work and taking pictures as they go. They have put together a Tech Tip for the Technical Resource Library and after doing so, I put it into HTML format and added it to the TRL. You will find it in the Clock section of the TRL under 1958-1960 Squarebirds Clock Repair. Thank you Kim & Theo!
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Kim & Theo thanks very much for the Tech Tip on clock repair
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Great info Kim and Theo!

Thanks Ray for putting it in the TRL.

Those knobs on the adjustment stem are a real bugger as mentioned. I sometimes wonder if Borg put some type of Loctite on the knob. Most of the clocks I've worked on the adjustment stem has some rust so I use a dremel with a wire brush and clean then paint with silver paint. The paint usually acts as a good enough lock on the knob although some have loosened when adjusting anti-clockwise.

Corroded points and poor grounding are the two biggest issues I find. The clock frame is grounded by the tab on the case. The clock frame has a brass tab and the case a matching tab riveted in pace with one small rivet. That rivet can loosen and cause the tab to mis-align. Make sure the tab on the frame is in the right position if the frame screw is loosened. The case tab also has the edges bent to points so that it digs into the frame tab. I always clean those, re-bend and make sure they are aligned and tight. Check that there is no corrosion between the case and the dash for a good ground connection too.



I got carried away fixing clocks some years back and even made desk clocks out of the spares I bought -



(an old post on clocks)
http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...ad.php?t=13850

Bet this is the basis for the internal mechanism. Check out the patent from John Hobbs - 1939!!!!
Notice the "Assignee" is George W. Borg - manufacturer of our Tbird clocks.
https://www.google.com/patents/US2146119
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Default New Squarebird Clock Repair Tech Tip

Here is a link to a company called Mouser Electronics! https://mouser.com

This company sells a wide variety of electronic parts, including the fuse for the 1958-1960 Squarebirds clock! (And perhaps other clocks and components for other years of Tbirds). If you have a Ford Part # and can give it to them, they might be able to tell you if they stock that part. Keep in mind that their website is not broken down by years of car, make or model, but by Part Manufacturer, Part Name, Body Style, and Voltage information. Thanks to Kim & Theo who informed me of this. In their Tech Tip, they had mentioned that fuse was difficult to find in their country. Until they discovered that Mouser Electronics has a Sales agency in The Netherlands. They have branches all over the world! The company happens to be located here in Texas! I just spoke with Mouser and have obtained their permission to add them to our Advertisements Forum. Apparently, from what Kim & Theo said, they ship quickly and I gather, they already have the fuse in hand. I have asked them for the part # for that fuse so others in Europe or other parts of the world can order one if they need it. I have just added their company to the Advertisements Forum!

Here is what Kim & Theo just told me in email!

"This might be useful for a lot of folks. Especially because their international shipping is excellent (ordered on Wednesday later in the afternoon, delivered from Texas to Netherlands on Friday!).

These are the fuses we ordered:
1AG 1A: 576-0301001.H
(According to my 1959 Shop Manual, Part 10-3, for the Fuse & Circuit Breaker Chart, the 1AG 1A Fuse is the Clock fuse. Cartridge in Feed Wire behind Instrument Panel)
1AG 2A: 576-0301002.H
(There is no listing of the 1AG 2A Fuse being used in the Shop Manual)
1AG 5A: 576-0301005.M
(According to my 1959 Shop Manual, the 1AG 5A is the Radio Fuse. Cartridge in Feed Wire)
SFE 7.5: 576-0SFE07.5V
(According to my 1959 Shop Manual, the SFE 7.5 Fuse is the one for the Dome Light. It is also used in the Turn Signals & Turn Indicator section. Cartridge in Feed Wire behind Instrument Panel)
SFE 14: 504-SFE-14
(According to my 1959 Shop Manual, the SFE 14 Fuse is for the Heater Blower. Cartridge in wire from Ignition Switch)

(According to my 1959 Shop Manual, the 3AG 15A is listed in the 1959 Shop Manual as the Overdrive Fuse located on clip of the O.D. relay.)

We are not 100% sure however that these are completely correct…. The speed of the fuses is never indicated in the manual, so we aimed for medium when available or just for availability. The search engine is very extensive and you have to know a little bit about basic electronics to find your way through it, but it will get you there. So, to be sure, one better uses the search engine to find the right fuse for their purpose.

Given there is no minimum order total (below a certain amount they calculate s&h, so you could order as little as one fuse) it looks like the ideal company for our needs! Best regards, Kim and Theo."
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