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Old 07-28-2004, 04:52 PM
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Shroud...

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Old 07-29-2004, 08:28 AM
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In William Wonder's book "Thunderbird Restoration Guide", page 68, he writes

"The fan should be painted white (four blade) for 1958-60 without air conditioning, or black (five blade) for 1958-60 with air conditioning. A two piece metal fan shroud was available in 1960 and should be in place for concours showing. "

which would seem to indicate that 5 blade fans are out there and also
shrouds, unless his writing is based on manufacturer's intentions and not actually production.

Wish I had known about the water pump option! I just replaced mine...
any sense, Alexander, of how much more water it moves? (I assume these things are rated somehow, like gallons per minute or something)

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Old 07-29-2004, 11:27 AM
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NOS 5 blade fans are hard to come by, but they are common used. 6 blade fans are available NOS.

I think the shroud being available on 1960 Thunderbirds is controversial. I have never seen one in over twenty years in the hobby.

The extra volume water pumps promise to deliver at least 30% more flow. Some say that you can pump water too fast through the radiator, so that the heat does not have time to be transferred to the air, but this is not true.

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Old 07-30-2004, 02:48 PM
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I currently have a fan shroud listed on ebay. It was from a full size 1960 Ford Sunliner. I'm fortunate to have an extra shroud, so I'm selling the extra unit to some one who needs it. I do know it was used on 60 to 62 full size Ford cars with a/c. I do not know if it is the same unit was used on Tbirds. You can look at the pictures posted on ebay to see if it is the same as Tbird. The two bolt holes on the top are where the shroud secures to the top of the radiator. There is a " L " shaped bracket that secures to the radiator and also the core support. The two "slotted" holes on the bottom are where the radiator is secured to the core support. I can also take measurements of the shroud if needed. I hope this is of some help to you.
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:34 PM
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Alexander...........there is a Goldish brown 1960 sunroof model owned (it was for sale at one time)by a Robert Horan. I am 100% sure that this car had a fan shroud......and it was photographed for the ad he was running.............he even mentioned in the ad how rare it was. I cant find the "for sale" ad ..........but a picture of the car is on "Bobs PA site" This was a few years ago so Im not sure he still owns it. It had the cream and brown interior and was a full restoration priced around 25,000. There is a link to this mans email on the same site. Perhaps he can be contacted for pictures.
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Old 07-30-2004, 03:50 PM
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The more I ponder it, my conclusion becomes firmer. The Squarebirds were known to have an overheating problem from the start, especially if they had A/C. I would doubt that Ford would make a unique part for the Thunderbird and then just install it on a handful of cars. I suspect that the actual story is that the dealers in 1960 adapted the 1960 full size Ford shroud to help solve the coooling problem for a few customers. This would be why original late model year 1960 Thunderbirds such as mine lack a fan shroud.

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I might just get that shroud to see if it works. It may settle the 1960 Thunderbird fan shroud question once and for all.

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I had the high bid for the fan shroud. I should be getting it in a week or so. I will document what I find and how it fits the Squarebirds.

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I have read that the squarebird suffers from over heating but i never suffer this problem. The 430 is an air car and it dont over heat neither does the 352 .
The only time it runs hot is when i stop to get fuel then so as i am get going again it cools off.
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Kevin,

It never gets more then 75 degrees Fahrenheit in England, does it? or should I say 24 degrees Celsius. The real reason your car keeps so cool is due to that special high temp US fan blade I sent you. LOL



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