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Juho, John Rotella came through with some additional information, though he was not able to find all of it. If you can, take a photo of your Data Plate so that all the info on it can be read and email it to me at yellowrose@squarebirds.org. Here is what John said he was able to find and what to do to find the rest of the information.

"The K stands for Oakville Assembly plant, for cars with left-hand drive. (So now we know what that K in the AK means!)

I have not been able to come up with a definitive answer about how the last six of the VIN begin. It seems that different years start with different numbers. (Perhaps, unlike our USA Ford numbering system that starts with a 1, maybe the 5 indicates 1959?)

I don’t know what F2 means but of course, whatever is in the car if it is original, is the F2. I don’t know what transmission it has either. (What engine and tranny is in the car? If you know they have never been swapped out, then whatever the codes say on the Data Plate will correspond to what you have. If they have been swapped out, maybe Ford of Canada can tell you what it left the factory with if you can give them the codes.)

As far as the color goes, we have another mystery here. 4 means the Styletone Paint combination (color 1 – color 2 – color 1) L means Blue Ice Metallic. and according to this book, S means Satellite Red, which of course makes no sense. So he is misreading the plate, or the plate is in error, or the book is in error, or the least probable thing is that it is 2-tone blue and red. (As before, perhaps Ford of Canada can give you what those codes mean. Also, if you contact them, see if they will tell you where they are getting the breakdown of the 1959 Data Plate information from and if it is available online.)

This book I have does not decode the trims, either. Your friend can write (or call) to Ford of Canada, I understand that they have a good customer service department which will try to look up this stuff. We have to remember that detailed records were not kept for a lot of this stuff. Ford and other car manufacturers never anticipated the need to know details like this down the road 50 or 60 years later.

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Here are the pictures we've all been waiting for. Sorry for the delay in posting them. - Dave

















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Great pix and she is a beauty! According to what I have read, this car, a 1959 65A was called a Galaxie Club Victoria.

From the looks of the paint job it appears to be Wedgewood Blue & Surf Blue?

I wonder what is stamped on the engine block? From the looks of the Data Plate, there seems to be a tiny Y stamped right above the word "is" in that 8 cylinder engine no. is stamped" statement.

Here is a color code chart for 1959 Fords.
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Thanks so much for the info, i really appreciate it.
I have the six cylinder with an automatic transmission. I just bought the car a few days ago on ebay. I have yet to pick it up, it is safely in storage and there is snow everywhere here. So i dont have a pic of the engine area data plate and i am not sure if it is a 2 or 3 speed. i imagine a 2 since it is paired with the 223 engine.
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Juno as you may know the Ford Oakville plant is just next to Mississagua (Toronto ) and is still operational today. Kind of neat that you are in B.C. and you purchased a Canadian made Galaxie. Cool Let us know when you take possession.
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Howard Prout in Canada has done some research for us and here is what I have found out so far. First of all, I want to correct something that I said about that starting number series of the VIN #. That 665AK59 breaks down as this. That first 6 tells you that it is a 6 cylinder car. If it were an 8 cylinder, it would be 465A (why not 8, I do not know). The 65A is correct - It is a Canadian Galaxie Club Victoria according to the '49-'59 Ford Parts book. The letter K does NOT tell you it is a left hand drive car. K=Oakville Ontario plant. 59 tells you it is a 1959 car.

I am still searching for what the F2 Engine is, but if it has a 223 in it from the factory, that is probably what F2 means.

Now for the paint. The paint code pic I posted is not complete, apparently. According to information I got from Howard there are a lot more than those listed in his book. That 4LS paint code breaks down as this. The number 4=May be Meadowvale Green. The letter L=Diamond Blue (Light). The letter S=perhaps Special paint, which could mean Metallic. Juho, I will send you those files and also a Data Plate picture which is similar in layout to yours.

More info to follow as I learn more.
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Dano, that corridor between Toronto and Detroit has always been 'key' to Ford Motor Company operations.

Windsor has a foundry (casting center) and an engine plant.

St. Thomas Assembly was famous for the millions of Pinto cars that were assembled there. I had one and I loved driving it over 150k miles. I pulled my dirt bikes with it as well.

Oakville Assembly Plant is an old Ford plant that produced millions of Ford cars for Canada and the US over many decades.

Buffalo Stamping Plant (another major parts plant) is kind of in that corridor as well.

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I'm anxious to see under the hood of your new 1959 Galaxie. Some folks wanted the Mileage Maker Six and Ford was there to deliver it. Thank God Ford made so many diverse combinations in their products. This Galaxie is a gorgeous full size Ford, probably only used to go to church and get groceries. 145 HP is plenty for that. My grandfather's Packard filled that same bill. Oh, he also went to his Moose Lodge meetings once a month. - Dave
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Thanks again for the info, very cool to know it is the Crown Victoria Coupe. Even with the little 6 in there seems like a somewhat valuable car.
Simplyconnected I sent a few photos of the engine area to you
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Juhu, Howard Prout has a 1958-1959 Canadian Passenger Body Parts Manual and he was able to extract this information from it for you! It confirms much of what has been said, and he came up with that Trim Code 17, and the correct colors for 4LS! Here is what he said.

Model: 6 - Ford 6 cyl.
Body type: 65A - Fairlane 500 Galaxie Club Victoria
Assembly plant: K - Oakville, Ontario, Canada
Model year: 1959
Serial No:. 535261 5XXXXXX - Consecutive build number starting at 500001
35261 - the thirty five thousandth, two hundred sixty first assembly
Engine : F2 - I can't find any info other than it was a six cylinder, The only six cylinder engine I can find for 1959 is Code "A" - 223 cu. in 1V carb. 145 hp.

Trim code : 17
Sun visor bracket: 784 - White
Seat side shield: 1114 - Medium blue
Instrument panel: 1114 - Medium blue
Steering column: 524 - White
Garnish molding: 1114 - Medium blue
Paint: 4LS - 1 or 5LL and 1 or 5 SS
1LL - Blue Ice Metallic (Medium)
1SS - Satellite Blue (Light)

I talked with him on the phone and he said the 4LS means it was 2-toned, 1LL - Blue Ice Metallic (Medium) & 1SS - Satellite Blue (Light). So it looks like that might be, if not the original paint job, the original colors. You will find them listed on the right side of the paint list with the before it, as in 1LL and 1SS.

He also suggested that if that car was still in Canada when you bought it you might contact the motor vehicle department, give them the VIN # on it and see if they can provide you with the history on that car! I will email you the copies of the forms that he sent me.
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Very cool to know, thank you so much. Ya the interior matches what is listed there as well. Glad it is wearing the proper color paint original or not. Yes the car has stayed up here in Canada so I will see if I can get more info on its history
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