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  • 619Square
    Apprentice
    • Aug 20 2009
    • 94

    I think the carb...

    needs to be rebuilt. What do you folks think???

    Symptoms-

    Has sat for 4 or 5 years now ( I know... bad owner!!! But, I got married.. had babies... now I have some time here and there).

    Before hand she started like a dream! So anyhow I can get her to start but as soon as she starts to stall I hit the gas and boom... dead as a mouse.

    The moment I hit the gas or push the accelerator bracket in she dies.

    But i did get her to idle for about 4 minutes the other day! haha

    What do you all think???

    Cheers,
    J
    --------------------------------
    1960 Thunderbird
    Been in my family since 1961
    Portland, OR
  • byersmtrco
    Super-Experienced
    • Sep 28 2004
    • 1839

    #2
    Yep. If you do get it running, it'll leak (You don't want THAT !!!)

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    • 57ford/60thunderbird
      Experienced
      • May 4 2009
      • 296

      #3
      sounds like it needs aleast the excelerater diaphrams replaced (if its the stock carb)
      57 ford sedan
      60 thunderbird registry number 33404
      69 mustang coupe
      69 roadrunner

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      • Guest

        #4
        If it was me I would just put a new Edelbrock and forget it I tried to have mine rebuild and did not have good luck.

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        • simplyconnected
          Administrator
          • May 26 2009
          • 8787

          #5
          Originally posted by 619Square
          ...What do you all think???
          I would start by looking down the carb and seeing if the accel rod makes it squirt gas.

          Did you check other tune-up components? Points, plugs?

          I think we need more info from you. Use all your senses and use basic troubleshooting practices. Notice the absence as well as the presence of things (Eg: do you smell gas fumes, or does it blow smoke). I assume you are getting spark. When it runs, is it erratic?

          Personally, I would take the carb apart and make sure there's no varnish inside, and run wires through the passages. You didn't mention gas... I'm afraid to ask how old it is. What about the fuel tank? Was it properly drained?

          Hard to troubleshoot from this computer without a lot more info. - Dave
          Member, Sons of the American Revolution

          CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

          "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
          --Lee Iacocca

          From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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          • Dan Leavens
            Moderator / Administrator


            • Oct 4 2006
            • 6379

            #6
            Justin I agree with BoBM and the others that she sounds awfully tired. Swap it out for a new Edelbrock 600 CFM and she will purrrr !! I did it with my 60HT and the good news is that your fuel economy will certainly improve Hold onto the old Holley as the original, in case you sell down the road.
            Dano Calgary,Alberta Canada
            Thunderbird Registry
            58HT #33317
            60 HT (Sold )

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            • Guest

              #7
              Hey Justin,
              See if anybody locally has a carburetor that you can borrow. It only takes a few minutes to change it out. Then if it is your carburetor you will know!!!
              Keep us posted!
              Richard D. Hord

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              • JohnG
                John
                • Jul 28 2003
                • 2341

                #8
                No matter what you do, clean the points!!
                1958 Hardtop
                #8452 TBird Registry
                http://tbird.info/registry/DataSheet...r~equals~8452)

                photo: http://www.squarebirds.org/users/joh...d_June2009.jpg
                history:
                http://www.squarebirds.org/users/johng/OCC.htm

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Hey Justin,
                  As stated before move throttle and see if you have fuel. To do this remove air cleaner and look down in front part of carburetor. If not something is wrong with fuel system. Check and make sure fuel filter is not stopped up. Also fuel pump could be going out.
                  If you think it is fuel pump. You can crimp rubber line with vise grips, to shut off fuel. Rig up container with gas in it and hook it up directly to carburetor and see if she will start. If this works see if anybody locally has a carburetor that you can borrow. It only takes a few minutes to change it out. Then if it is your carburetor you will know!!
                  If you have fuel in the carburetor, pull off plug wire insert bolt in plug wire, hold it close to a metal point on block, have someone try to start her and see if you have spark!
                  Keep us posted!
                  Richard D. Hord[/QUOTE]

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                  • byersmtrco
                    Super-Experienced
                    • Sep 28 2004
                    • 1839

                    #10
                    Plus one on the Edelbrock !!! Can't beat em !!! if you're going for orig appearance, the bed pan air cleaner covers it.

                    For perf, mileage and driveability, the Edelbrock beats ALL, bar none.

                    Mine is ancient. In fact it still says Carter on it (on of the 1st - 625 cfm)
                    It is just now to the poit where it needs to be rebuilt (20 years . . . aprox)

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                    • 57ford/60thunderbird
                      Experienced
                      • May 4 2009
                      • 296

                      #11
                      ill second or third the edelbrock all the way ...... holleys suck
                      57 ford sedan
                      60 thunderbird registry number 33404
                      69 mustang coupe
                      69 roadrunner

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                      • 619Square
                        Apprentice
                        • Aug 20 2009
                        • 94

                        #12
                        Thanks for all the replies!

                        a bit more of a background...

                        I have fuel to carb... Its getting in (idles for a bit, put a new filter on, fuel in filter). I have spark (ran for a bit)... yada yada. I think the carb needs to be rebuilt.

                        FYI - The block (352) is done/dead/kaput. When it does/did run it heated up like she was driving on the sun (we think she has an exhaust leak into the coolant lines).

                        So now I have a 390 (10 over = 408) that I am building to replace the original.

                        Hence why I am waiting to buy an new carb. Would rather re-build existing (carb) just so I can move her around as need be.

                        Ill post updates as I have them!

                        Any one have any good rebuild kits in-mind???
                        --------------------------------
                        1960 Thunderbird
                        Been in my family since 1961
                        Portland, OR

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                        • 619Square
                          Apprentice
                          • Aug 20 2009
                          • 94

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 57ford/60thunderbird
                          ill second or third the edelbrock all the way ...... holleys suck
                          That's funny... I have heard that on a few occasions.

                          Why is that?

                          Back in the day holley was on it!
                          --------------------------------
                          1960 Thunderbird
                          Been in my family since 1961
                          Portland, OR

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                          • scumdog
                            Super-Experienced

                            • May 12 2006
                            • 1528

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 619Square
                            That's funny... I have heard that on a few occasions.

                            Why is that?

                            Back in the day holley was on it!

                            Only ever used Holleys - and the only problem I have ever had was a brass float that had a pin-hole leak, caused me no end of head-scratching figuring what was wrong.

                            I'll buy a Holley every time as i know them well.

                            Buy a new 600 vacuum secondary and you'll be happy.
                            A Thunderbirder from the Land of the Long White Cloud.

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                            • Meridious
                              Experienced
                              • Nov 16 2007
                              • 158

                              #15
                              Hi,

                              When I went looking for a Edelbrock 600cfm Performer series...I was plastered with Part numbers....anyone have any idea as to what part number works well with our Tbirds?

                              I think I have narrowed in on the two models that everyone seems to refer to:

                              E-1400 is a 600cfm Electric choke AVS

                              E-1406 is a non-emissions version

                              I did a wild search here through the forums and found a lot of recommendations for the 600cfm Edelbrock, but which model?

                              I looked over at the Birds Nest and Pats and a few other Tbird part outlets but could not find any info about an Edelbrock bolt up.

                              I have a 60-Bird with a 352 and AC.

                              Thanks for any help, here.

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