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Old 07-16-2018, 11:19 AM
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I also went to the biggest flex fan i could get. Living in houston there is always heat and traffic. it defiantly moves more air.

Flex-a-lite (4817) 17 7-Leg Belt Driven Flex Fan, Silver

Flex-a-lite 14538 Mill Finish 2" Fan Spacer Kit
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Old 07-16-2018, 11:42 AM
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You guys are running cool....

Was about 90 deg here late last week and high humidity. Temp stayed around the M in temp most of the 40 min ride. Sitting in the driveway afterwards the gauge went to the end of the black mark slightly past the P (and I think it would have kept going).

IR temp gun read 212 at the temp sensor (+/- 3 deg). Probably OK because the boiling point would be higher with the 13 PSI system pressure.... but still hotter than I want to run.

I'm definitely going to have to install a shroud whether it's the plastic one or the Bullet bird type. And probably install electric fans which means an alternator upgrade.

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Old 07-16-2018, 02:46 PM
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You guys are running cool....

Was about 90 deg here late last week and high humidity. Temp stayed around the M in temp most of the 40 min ride. Sitting in the driveway afterwards the gauge went to the end of the black mark slightly past the P (and I think it would have kept going).

IR temp gun read 212 at the temp sensor (+/- 3 deg). Probably OK because the boiling point would be higher with the 13 PSI system pressure.... but still hotter than I want to run.

I'm definitely going to have to install a shroud whether it's the plastic one or the Bullet bird type. And probably install electric fans which means an alternator upgrade.

The shroud & a 6 or 7 blade will do it.
You won't need elec
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You guys are running cool....

Was about 90 deg here late last week and high humidity. Temp stayed around the M in temp most of the 40 min ride. Sitting in the driveway afterwards the gauge went to the end of the black mark slightly past the P (and I think it would have kept going).

IR temp gun read 212 at the temp sensor (+/- 3 deg). Probably OK because the boiling point would be higher with the 13 PSI system pressure.... but still hotter than I want to run.

I'm definitely going to have to install a shroud whether it's the plastic one or the Bullet bird type. And probably install electric fans which means an alternator upgrade.

Try the shroud. You may be ok with just that improvement. When we had our Squarebird we were lucky to find a universal shroud that fit about 7/8 around the radiator. Sealing against the radiator is important. Keeping the fins in the radiator cleared is another chore.

As a reference, we just installed a shroud and hi-performance four blade fan on our undersized radiator in another car,
ditching the 5-blade clutch fan. On a high idle startup it was pulling the grass clippings up off the lawn.
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You guys are running cool....

Was about 90 deg here late last week and high humidity. Temp stayed around the M in temp most of the 40 min ride. Sitting in the driveway afterwards the gauge went to the end of the black mark slightly past the P (and I think it would have kept going).

IR temp gun read 212 at the temp sensor (+/- 3 deg). Probably OK because the boiling point would be higher with the 13 PSI system pressure.... but still hotter than I want to run.

I'm definitely going to have to install a shroud whether it's the plastic one or the Bullet bird type. And probably install electric fans which means an alternator upgrade.

If I'm sitting in traffic it's at the M, middle of the M, but driving it's just at the start of the E, before the shroud and the thermostat it ran at the M while driving.
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Here is something that Kenn (thanks, Kenn!) sent me regarding boiling point temperatures that might interest those of you who are combatting overheating problems in your Bird. Clicking on the attachment should give you the option to Open or Save it.
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My 17 inch flex fan is only 5/8 inch away from the radiator which makes it really hard to get to the fan bolts. I have a metal shroud that I am going to install and I am wondering if I can move the fan further away from the radiator? The spacer I have is 2 inch and I thought maybe I could go to a 1 inch. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks
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Take a look at this post and will guide you to proper spacing/location of a fan using a shroud: http://www.squarebirds.org/vbulletin...ad.php?t=22919

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Thanks Nyles. That is a big help.
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Keep in mind that if you end up using more than one spacer, the pilot hole size on the water pump is larger than the pilot hole for the fan. I got bit on this one and is why I remember the size difference.
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