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Old 06-04-2012, 04:33 PM
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Default Need some transmission help

So here is the deal. Pulled the trans from our 65 White Bird since it was having issues with reverse. I have another transmission I picked up that appears to have been rebuilt and never used after.

So now to my problem, they are both Cruse Matics, but they have different shift linkage arms on the trans.

This is the one that was in the car...



This is the one I have that I planned to install.



So my question, will the linkage work? If not how does one change it?

Thanks for the help
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:17 PM
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R U sure both are in the same select position (gear)?

If so, can you post the tag I.D. Nos. These old eyes cannot pull them out.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:35 PM
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R U sure both are in the same select position (gear)?

If so, can you post the tag I.D. Nos. These old eyes cannot pull them out.
I am pretty sure I had them both in the same select position. Here are all the part numbers I got of both transmission.

The one I was planning to use: C5MP-7006A Tag on the trans PFA B 130765
another number CL221. I also wrote down PBK-7651-C and IP-77823-N.

The one I pulled: C5MP-7006A Tag on the tans PCE BJ 058994 another number was 5C30:

I guess I was getting tired of writing down numbers when I got the the one I pulled, since I wrote down fewer numbers....

I found a post I did on here when I picked up the replacement trans, guess the guy I got it from said it was from a 62 TBird.

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Old 06-04-2012, 10:29 PM
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I am pretty sure I had them both in the same select position. Here are all the part numbers I got of both transmission.

The one I was planning to use:

Tag on the trans PFA B 130765 another number CL221. I also wrote down PBK-7651-C and IP-77823-N.

The one I pulled: Tag on the tans PCE BJ 058994 another number was 5C30:

I found a post I did on here when I picked up the replacement trans, guess the guy I got it from said it was from a 62 TBird.
PCE-BJ is from a 65/66 BIRD MX (MERC-O-MATIC)

PFA-B is from (originally) a 1967 FORD MX.

So that would explain the manual lever differences. The levers can be interchanged (should be) (within exact trans series) by dropping the valve body and exchanging the levers.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:08 AM
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PCE-BJ is from a 65/66 BIRD MX (MERC-O-MATIC)

PFA-B is from (originally) a 1967 FORD MX.

So that would explain the manual lever differences. The levers can be interchanged (should be) (within exact trans series) by dropping the valve body and exchanging the levers.
Hmm, so is that a fairly simple process, IE, for someone with maybe slightly above the ave garage mechanic?
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:39 AM
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Hmm, so is that a fairly simple process, IE, for someone with maybe slightly above the ave garage mechanic?
You have your shop manual, correct? You might surprise yourself...

I would trust it to an older trans tech as he will (should) know what will and what won't once he opens it.

You know that the replacement trans is good? When you are dealing with trans of this age, it might be more economical to have the original gone through.
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:45 PM
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You have your shop manual, correct? You might surprise yourself...

I would trust it to an older trans tech as he will (should) know what will and what won't once he opens it.

You know that the replacement trans is good? When you are dealing with trans of this age, it might be more economical to have the original gone through.
I don't know if it's good, but it appears to have been rebuilt. It has been painted and when I cracked it open, the inside is way to clean. Think.... it is spotless clean inside with a new filter and new seals, etc. That and when I asked a local trans shop to look at the trans I pulled (before I pulled it) he told me the case was broke, he would need to find a core to rebuild it. I personally haven't noted where the case is broke, but he said it was common on these.

I have rebuilt manual trans before just following the manual, but for some reason autos scare me....

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Old 06-05-2012, 01:03 PM
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I asked a local trans shop to look at the trans I pulled (before I pulled it) he told me the case was broke, he would need to find a core to rebuild it. I personally haven't noted where the case is broke, but he said it was common on these.

I have rebuilt manual trans before just following the manual, but for some reason autos scare me....

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You have a case, the takeout. Both have CASTING I.D. NOS. C5MP 7006, correct?

The case cracks due to the operator putting it in DR before coming to a full stop after R. There is a fix-it kit.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:04 PM
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I don't know if this is good stuff or not but I ran across it a while ago.

If I were to rebuild an auto, I would consider getting some of his stuff. He also has DVDs on 8.8 and 9" rear ends. T5 also.

http://www.badshoeproductions.com/

Trans Info FAQs:
http://www.badshoeproductions.com/trans.html


Is anyone familiar with this?
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:11 PM
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GOOD SOURCE!, but he does not have the CRUISEO or the FOM.

Professional overhaul manuals for any type AT are available.
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