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Roberto, in Italy wrote me to ask if I could help him find a part for his Unity Co. "winged" spotlight on his beautiful '60 Tbird. He has not been able to turn it recently. Apparently, a gear that causes the spotlight to turn different directions has stopped working. Carl - partsetal did not have any parts for it. So, I called my contact, Ben, at Unity Mfg. Co., and he, as usual, was a wealth of information. This information might be very helpful to those of you who also have this problem, or might in the future. Here is what I learned.

First of all, ALL their Unity lights that have that goose neck connection that the shaft attaches to under the spotlight shell have that gear in the goose neck that goes into the light case shell. That is Part Nr. 6403-A. So it does not matter if it is a round light, a square one with a round rear view mirror, or the winged version like his with the square rear view mirror. That gear is all the same.

However.... There are FOUR gears in that light unit! There is that one which goes into the light shell casing. There is one on the end of the shaft that goes into the goose neck piece that turns and causes the gear in the goose neck to turn. He told me that your shaft for a Tbird with a HL-1 or a H1-FM spotlight mounted on the fender should be 15 1/2" long, measured from the center of the pistol grip to the bottom center of the goose neck. I will include a picture of this. It is the bottom listing you look at under the letter "C" - 15 1/2". This shaft with the gear on the end is Part Nr. 6427-C and you will see it on the web page that shows the 105-6PartsSheet.pdf file. He said that only the 6427-C shaft at 15 1/2" will work on a '58-'60 Tbird.

The third gear is in the pistol grip handle and it is Part Nr. 6405. It is at the top end of the handle and this is the one gear that he says seems to wear more than the others. He said it might be this gear that is stripped or has broken teeth in it. If either of these four gears becomes worn or broken it won't turn the other gears.

The fourth gear is on a shaft that goes in the bottom of the pistol grip and it looks like it matches up with gear Nr. 6405. The Part Nr. for this last gear is 6122, BUT they no longer have it. BUT they do have Part Nr. 5593 which is the same, EXCEPT that it might be a little bit longer and you might have to cut off a small piece off the length of it. You can see all these parts on the 105-6 Parts Sheet.

Now the good thing is that all these parts are available from them still! So are the light bulbs! It is Part Nr. U-H7635 for $47.92. They are also available through GE, Part Nr. GE H7635 (halogen). I am including the link to each of these four gears which will show you what they look like, the cost, etc.. He says that they can be ordered using your PayPal account. They WILL ship overseas. Here are the links, and as you look at them in Acrobat Reader, you can zoom in or use Ctrl + or - and see the Parts Sheet better. If you don't have a .pdf reader file, you can get one at Acrobat Reader website for free.

http://shop.unityusa.com/assets/imag...PartsSheet.pdf

http://shop.unityusa.com/6427-C-Rod-...bly_p_540.html

http://shop.unityusa.com/search.asp?keyword=6405&search.x=22&search.y=5


http://shop.unityusa.com/search.asp?...x=0&search.y=0

http://shop.unityusa.com/search.asp?...=11&search.y=5

For the left fender mounting bracket kit the Part Nr. for 1958-1960 Tbirds is 130. However, they also have a Part Nr. 88 listed for the 1958 Tbird. There was NO right hand mounting bracket for the '58-'60 Tbirds. If you want to mount a passenger side spotlight, I can tell you how others did it.

http://shop.unityusa.com/130-Install...Kit_p_841.html

http://shop.unityusa.com/88-Installation-Kit_p_835.html

If I have it right, I think they have most of the parts in stock listed on that 106-6 PartsSheet list! I know they have the mounting brackets in stock.

Roberto has several options. There is a junk Unity spotlight he can buy I saw and told him about for not much money and take gears from it, if they are good. The four gear parts in it should work on your light Ben said. As long as the light has the same goose neck on it that your light has, they should work. They used the same goose neck on all their HL-1 or H1-FM and other series of spotlights that look like what Roberto has or the round light versions.

He can pull that top gear in the pistol grip handle on his light and see if that is the culprit and if the one from the junk light is good, put it in and replace the one that is in there. If that looks good, he can inspect the other gears from the junk light and see if any of them are shot. If not, he could replace other gears in his light from that junk light and hopefully fix the problem

Or he could order all four gears directly from Unity Mfg Co. and have all new gears in his light! Your choice! I asked Roberto to let me know which way he is going to go. BTW, in searching for another HL-1 or H1-FM, on eBay, I saw them for sale from between $100-$600 as I recall.

I hope this will be a big help to Roberto and anyone else who has problems with these spotlights. Here is are some pix. The first one is of the gear in the goose neck that he thought might be the culprit. The second is information on the length of the shaft. The third pic is of a HL-1 (or H1-FM) (the L is for Lincoln, but many of us have used the HL-1 on our Tbirds, or the H1-FM (Ford/Mercury, also used on Edsels).
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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I would like to thank Ray for his help. After 50 years, I'm very happy I can find the right part for my spotlight ! I really appreciate!

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Jim Elijah ~ elijahbird7 wrote me today to say that he had a crack in his drivers side "Winged" Unity spotlight, and the right spotlight had a blown seal beam. He asked if I knew where he could get replacements. So I put my Bloodhound nose to the ground and got busy. I talked with Ben at Unity Co., whose company made these units years ago (see info below about that) and he gave me the current Unity Part # for that 5" seal beam spotlight. It is U-4405 - 50,000 candlepower, 30W 12v - $22.66ea, for the H1 series of spotlights. He emphasized that though the "Winged" version of the spotlight with the side view mirror in the rear of it is often referred to as the HL-1, they call them the H1-F (Ford), H1-FM (Ford, Mercury, Edsel) or the H1-L (Lincoln). I gather they all used the same GE sealed beam spotlight. He also said they have a Halagen Spotlight which is U-H7635-Clear-Halogen-Light, $48ea. Here is the link to that.

http://www.unityusa.com/U-H7635-Clea...ght_p_117.html

BTW, I just saw two of these Winged H1 spotlights offered up for sale on FeeBay for just over $200 each! So you can still find them out there! I sold my NOS one years ago for a nice profit..

Jim has ordered two of the regular U-4405 spotlight sealed beams to replace those and was glad to know they are still in production. To see what his gorgeous, awarding winning (many) '59 Squarebird looks like with the dual H1 spotlights on it, look at the pics below.
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Way to go Ray. Nice to see someone so dedicated to track down parts.
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The bloodhound strikes again ! Come to think of it Ray, I'm after a money tree - go to it!
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lmbo... Bill, if I thought I could find a money tree, I wudda already been looking! lol..
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Ray I think we would all be on the " money tree " trail
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Jim~elijahbird7 sent me an email with pix of the Unity H1 GE Clear Spotlights he received today to replace the two bad ones on his gorgeous '59 Squarebird. Now he has to figure out how to get the old lights out and replace them. I suggested that if he needs to, call Ben Torres at Unity, (312) 943-5200, Ext. 211. Jim said he would let us know how it goes. I think he just needs to take out the screw on the front, below the light to get the retaining piece off, pull the bulb out, disconnect it, and put the new one in.

Jim just sent me another email saying that he was replacing his old Antique Battery.

"Today, I decided to replace the Antique Battery I put in the 59, 4 years ago. It seems like it is starting to have less power, so I picked up a Bosch Type 27 F today at PepBoys. I had run across these red caps with an adapter that will fit into modern batteries. It will look semi like an old battery, but has 750 Cold Cranking Amps. I will also install that tomorrow...always a project!"

Here are the pix of the spotlights, and the battery and caps... In fact, Jim just gave me the information on where you can get the caps from.

http://www.doyleshamrock.com

4D-8D-PIA Vent Cap Adapter $1.70

#1050 Standarty Vent Caps $1.00
(Comes in different colors)
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Jim said the sun came out, so he installed his new Red Cap battery! Here is what he said...

"So, I went over to the storage space and switched the battery. Didn't put the cables completely down, but it definitely started with much more gusto. And it cost $119.95 for the battery plus the cost of caps and shipping, so more than half less expensive than another Antique Battery. Only thing I had to modify was the black adapter for the red cap at each end, because that is a recessed area, and the black adapter needed to have the side facing out just sanded down a very minor amount to fit correctly."
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I really like the look with the new battery caps. Much more realistic than buying an antique battery.
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