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**kuusamon** · August 12, 2011, 05:58 AM

one ebay auction Finished last night with a set of hashmarks but sometimes they are on ebay for a reasonable price.
the link to the finished auction is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-...item27bd2d13ee

I know it doesn't do any good now but keep this seller in mind, he has a variety of Tbird parts for sale frequently for very reasonable prices. I bought from him several times and got more than I bargained for.

Anyway I understood that Mary already has the hash marks anyway.
If you remove the side panel inside the trunk than you can see the inside of the fender panel. Maybe you can still see the original holes. When people close of the holes to make them invisible from the outside they usually do not do the same on the inside and you might still be able to see where the holes where.
Otherwise I have to measure the location where my hash marks are put I need a reference point from where to where I have to measure. From the bumper to the hashmarks or from the top of the wing and from the rear? let me know.
But you should be able to see something from the inside.
regards,
Ron

**jopizz** · August 12, 2011, 02:49 PM

The hash marks have three different part numbers because of the different curve from front to back. I believe the holes are also spaced farther apart on the last three or four. Hopefully Mary has a complete set.

**del** · August 12, 2011, 04:42 PM

some measurements

Here is a picture with some measurements

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**YellowRose** · August 12, 2011, 08:55 PM

Chrome Hash Marks Placement

Hi Don! Thank you for posting that picture! I am going to "borrow" it and put it in the Technical Resource Library (TRL) so that if the question comes up again, they will find the answer there. Thank you for taking the time to research it and measure it all out for Mary. I will send her an email and tell her to check it out. With what you gave her, she certainly should be able to get those hash marks back on the car.

**Guest** · August 12, 2011, 10:20 PM

On the hash marks at what point did they change from screws to the nut type?
My Golde has the screw type it's an early 60 and has the smooth roof trim. Did these two pieces go together?

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**YellowRose** · August 12, 2011, 11:12 PM

Chrome Hash Marks Placement

Richard asked when the change from screw on type rear chrome hash marks and the smooth chrome C-Pillar molding was made. According the the VTCI Official Factory Specifications (OFS) (don't have one? Get one!) the factory made the switch from screw on type rear chrome hash marks to speed nut fastened hash marks in mid-December 1959, early in the production run. The same thing applies to the smooth chrome C-Pillar molding to the ribbed version.

I also noticed that they changed from a single screw on the headlight door at the top with a V clip at the bottom to a two screw arrangement, top and bottom later in the production run. The OFS did not say when they made the switch, except to say that early 1960 production cars had the one screw/V clip arrangement.

Here are a couple of pix from the OFS.

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**60 T-Bird** · August 13, 2011, 12:57 AM

I have a complete set for a 60. You might get lucky and take out the interior side panels in the trunk. If they just bondo'd over the hole, you could back drill them...

**FINSRIN** · August 17, 2011, 01:07 AM

1960 430 AU photos

From side view, see that you have chrome piece around tail lights going up rear of fin. Could you please post photos showing more of chrome around tail lights. My 60 is similar color and like to see more of how chrome would look.

If did it, would not chrome original pieces. Get slavaged parts for that.

Thanks
Bill

**Guest** · August 17, 2011, 04:23 PM

Hey Bill,
Here is a rear picture of Richard's Thunderbird! Richard, I hope you do not mind me borrowing your pic

Richard D. Hord

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**Guest** · August 17, 2011, 08:25 PM

Now that saved me posting a pic thanks Richard

Bill here's a couple more

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**FINSRIN** · August 18, 2011, 02:21 AM

Thanks for pictures. Do like the look of it. Something to ponder for the 60.

Off original topic... am wondering how tail light pannel and rear of Tbird would look if after chroming; the raised bars of squares were painted black and insides remained chrome. Opposite of normal. Have extras to chrome over Winter. Could paint them that way. Hmmm...

Thoughts - Comments ?
Bill

**YellowRose** · August 19, 2011, 08:50 PM

Chrome Hash Marks Placement

Mary ~ mvd011244 sent an email to me. Here is what she had to say.

"Thank you so much for putting my dilemma out there and a great guy answered it great. There was another post about some of the hash marks being a different size, and holes different, I have the stud type with snap nuts, not the screw type. Does that hold true?

I haven't got them mounted yet, but they will be this week coming up. We just got the top working, now for weatherstripping, that's the big one. We replaced both exhaust manifolds and so far, so good.
Thanks again.
Mary
PS Lots of stares and thumbs up signs when we take it out. Nothing like a squarebird, yeah!!!!!!!"

Mary, hopefully the guys who own '60 Tbirds can answer your question. I do not know if the screw on type are different in size or the holes are different. I would open the trunk, take off the driver and passenger side panel covers and see if you can tell where the holes were. If you can, put your chrome pieces up against the holes and see if the holes in the chrome pieces match up with the holes in the side panels. If they do, I would say you have the right type chrome pieces. But then comes the tricky part. Drilling the holes through the paint job without messing it up. I think someone mentioned using tape over the paint to help prevent that, but I will like to see some of our really experiences people respond to this.

**jopizz** · August 19, 2011, 09:40 PM

The stud type hash marks have three different part numbers; C0SB-28984, C0SB-28985 and C0SB-28986. It's been awhile since I replaced them, but I believe the first five closest to the front of the car are the 28984 part number; the next two are the 28985 and the last two are the 28986. If you compare them you will see the difference in curve and stud separation. Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm incorrect. I'm going by the picture in the parts manual.

**Guest** · August 20, 2011, 11:44 AM

Thats right there are 3 diff ones. The fender gets rounder near the back. I read somewere that the ones with screws were mounted closer together or more towards the back. Have to see if I can find that.