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  • NYsquarebird58
    Experienced
    • Feb 6 2012
    • 352

    #46
    Mike, thanks for the kind words.

    Ray, I was thinking about that, but I just don't know anyone locally that could help out. All I have left on the brakes is to mount the booster, MC, proportioning valve, plum the hard lines and do a brake job on the rear drums. I really wanted this bird ready for the June 10 car show. That car show is actually the reason why I went searching for a project car and came across a T-Bird. I hate missing deadlines. One way or another I'll get this bird there (even if I got to push it)
    VTCI# 11860
    58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

    60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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    • Astrowing
      Experienced
      • Jul 22 2009
      • 478

      #47
      Sorry to hear about the injury. It is a good reminder to all of us to be careful and double-think what we're fixing to do before we do it. Hoping for a speedy recovery!
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      CLICK HERE for Jim's web site

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      • simplyconnected
        Administrator
        • May 26 2009
        • 8778

        #48
        Originally posted by NYsquarebird58
        ...I just don't know anyone locally that could help out...
        Heyyyyyyyyyy... How bout MONIKA!!!

        I mean, if she truuuuly loves you.... (LOL)
        Member, Sons of the American Revolution

        CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

        "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
        --Lee Iacocca

        From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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        • DKheld
          Super-Experienced
          • Aug 27 2008
          • 1583

          #49
          Been out of town - catching up on some of the threads

          UGH - sorry to hear about the finger Marcelo. Guess you'll just have to use one foot and one hand while the finger heals.

          X2 on Astrowings comments - everybody re-think and be safe!

          ( I think Dave is trying to get you in trouble - )


          Eric

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            #50
            That would be a good way to get the parts off the table. Ha Ha Get well and I know your gona push it.

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            • NYsquarebird58
              Experienced
              • Feb 6 2012
              • 352

              #51
              Thanks Eric and tbirds8. I wont be wrenching for a while but I'll still keep progressing with the project. I'll be ordering wheels and wide whites very soon. When I'm well enough, I'll bring them over to the bodyshop to get painted and then I'll have the tires mounted. I'm sure there are others little projects I can handle until I can pick up a wrench again. Boredom is the biggest killer. I gotta keep busy.

              Here I am just out of surgery. It was a success; they were able to reattach the tendon and remove the loose bone fragment.

              VTCI# 11860
              58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

              60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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              • Dakota Boy
                Super-Experienced
                • Jun 30 2009
                • 1561

                #52
                that x-ray pic with the loose bone chip gave me the willies.

                did you say some bad words when that happened?
                http://www.tbirdregistry.com/viewdat...ryNumber=33517

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                • NYsquarebird58
                  Experienced
                  • Feb 6 2012
                  • 352

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Dakota Boy
                  that x-ray pic with the loose bone chip gave me the willies.

                  did you say some bad words when that happened?
                  Yeah and I think I may have invented a few too!
                  VTCI# 11860
                  58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                  60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                  • simplyconnected
                    Administrator
                    • May 26 2009
                    • 8778

                    #54
                    I bench bled my new M/C tonight, Marcelo. It took foreeeeeever. I honestly thought one of my fittings was sucking air. Nope! It takes a lot of patience because little tiny bubbles keep coming with 1/4" strokes. You'll see...

                    Take care and enjoy your time off, as much as you can. Glad to hear your company came through for you and the operation is a success, so there's no worries. God Bless... - Dave
                    Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                    CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                    "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                    --Lee Iacocca

                    From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                    • NYsquarebird58
                      Experienced
                      • Feb 6 2012
                      • 352

                      #55
                      Originally posted by simplyconnected
                      I bench bled my new M/C tonight, Marcelo. It took foreeeeeever. I honestly thought one of my fittings was sucking air. Nope! It takes a lot of patience because little tiny bubbles keep coming with 1/4" strokes. You'll see...

                      Take care and enjoy your time off, as much as you can. Glad to hear your company came through for you and the operation is a success, so there's no worries. God Bless... - Dave
                      Hey Dave, did you mount that new MC yet?
                      VTCI# 11860
                      58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                      60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                      • simplyconnected
                        Administrator
                        • May 26 2009
                        • 8778

                        #56
                        Not yet. It was Mother's Day and here's what we did:
                        CLICK HERE
                        I'm only in a few pics (#13) as I was the photographer of the day (in the Thunderbird shirt).

                        I anticipate the swap will go very quick (and smoothly). For the past few days I've been tied up and DYING to get back to Penelope's job. The Galaxie has a M/C that works but the new one will be an improvement. Since it was raining the other night, I used that time to bench bleed:

                        I simply bend two old brake lines into the reservoirs. It is important the ends are submerged in the liquid. Notice one line has a plastic tube? When done, I connect the two temporary steel lines with that plastic tube until I'm ready to plumb the M/C. It just makes the job a little neater. When it's plumbed, I will throw the temp pieces away. - Dave
                        Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                        CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                        "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                        --Lee Iacocca

                        From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                        • NYsquarebird58
                          Experienced
                          • Feb 6 2012
                          • 352

                          #57
                          I'm Baaaaacckkk!!!!

                          It’s been just about four months to the day since I hurt my finger, but I’m back and good as new!

                          Today I picked up where I left off, and I gotta’ tell ya’, it felt good to wrench on the old bird again.

                          I removed the old booster and master cylinder and plumbed the proportioning valve to the new master cylinder. Tomorrow I’ll see about mounting it all up to the firewall.









                          VTCI# 11860
                          58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                          60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                          • simplyconnected
                            Administrator
                            • May 26 2009
                            • 8778

                            #58
                            You're a good man, Marcelo. You take the best pics too. I'm really happy to hear you're back in the saddle again.

                            Last night I had to make a panic stop in my Escort. The light turned red and there was no reason I shouldn't stop. Luckilly it was at night with light traffic.

                            I hit the brake pedal HARD and the front left weel started pulsating violently but it did stop in time (but barely). I was two miles from home in a five speed stick, so I'm not really worried. When I resumed driving, the brake smelled badly and it kinda 'caught' on something, each revolution.

                            At noon Saturday, I hoisted the car, set stands, pulled the wheel, and inspected the pads. The inner pad was gone but the outer pad was like new. Then, I noticed the small rubber 'bellows' on the guide pins were torn. Sure enough, there was rust inside which prevented the calipers from equalizing. The rotor's inside surface had a raised rust imprint from sitting a long time in one place. That caused the pulsing and it tore up the inner pad.

                            The whole time I was working on these brakes I was thinking of you and your brake job. Were your ears burning?

                            To make a long story short, AutoZone had pads and a caliper for under $55.00, and I was back on the road in no time.

                            About your job... You may want to tuck the prop valve under the M/C, horizontally instead of beside it vertically. If you have the room, there isn't much difference.

                            I'm anxious to see the results when you grid the rivets off the old booster and mount the firewall bracket to your new two-stage booster. The old girl is REALLY going to like her new brakes. - Dave
                            Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                            CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                            "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                            --Lee Iacocca

                            From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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                            • NYsquarebird58
                              Experienced
                              • Feb 6 2012
                              • 352

                              #59
                              A little bit more progress today. I repositioned the proportioning valve underneath the master cylinder and removed the bracket off the back of the booster.


                              The Booster was filled with brake fluid!




                              VTCI# 11860
                              58HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37043 (Sold)

                              60HT - Thunderbird Registry Number: 37252 "Lucille" (Sold)

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                              • simplyconnected
                                Administrator
                                • May 26 2009
                                • 8778

                                #60
                                Originally posted by NYsquarebird58
                                ...The Booster was filled with brake fluid!..
                                And, the rest of the fluid was sucked into your intake manifold... Great job, Marcelo.

                                Something struck me about the six holes on the firewall side of your booster bracket. Why six holes? Because Ford used the same bracket on full size Ford M/C's, which have different hole centers.

                                If your booster was full of fluid, that means the old master cylinder was leaking too. Both of them had to be defective.

                                Your new cunifer brake line bends look very professional and neat. I like how accessible you mounted the Stop Switch. It should be easy to change in future. Nice job. Real nice. - Dave
                                Member, Sons of the American Revolution

                                CLICK HERE to see my custom hydraulic roller 390 FE build.

                                "We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"
                                --Lee Iacocca

                                From: Royal Oak, Michigan

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