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Thanks for the pic. That was NOT in the factory service manual the PO gave to me with the car. I do have power windows.
When you first posted I told you where you could download ALL the manuals for your '62 for free. Not just the service manual. The picture I posted is from the electrical manual. In addition all the wiring diagrams are in the Technical Resource Library. Here's where you can get the manuals.

http://fordramair.com/new/info/tech/...rd_manuals.htm

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looking at the wiring stuff now. It is rather GREEK to me. I will study it but would LOVE a pic from another car of the area I am dealing with. That is the type of learner I am.
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there are a few weekly cruise ins ganna look at the tbird with power windows and see what they have, take some pics. Someone has fiddled with how this thing is wired.
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Thanks to John ~ jopizz, I have put those links to the FREE manuals for the 1962-1963 Bulletbird in the Technical Resource Library. All but the 1962 Convertible Top Manual can be found in the BOOKS section of the TRL, down towards the bottom. The Convertible Top Manual can be found in the Convertible Top Repair & Troubleshooting section of the TRL. Thanks, John, as once again, you are a master at providing so much excellent advice, assistance and information to the membership of this Forum!
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I have a conv top manual at home also, again not loaded with detailed info.
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Tim, when it comes time to work on the convertible top there is more information in the TRL on working on 1960-1966 Convertible Tops. Perhaps there is more information in that. As for that top, the best thing anyone who owns a '58-'66 and beyond Convertible can do, is to "exercise" that top about every couple or weeks or so. Put it up, take it down, a few times before you put it away again. Most troubles with them come from leaving them in one position or the other, and NOT exercising them....
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Yea I give it a work out here and there. I owned some Jag Xk8's, if let them sit they acted up very quickly, quit driving them because of that, and they are much more modern.
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well new relay has been ordered.
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Per diagram in post 7 (bottom one as I have power windows and seats) and looking at it and my car and googling anything I could find on this I see what a prev owner person did.
On my relay the spade on the right is is there, so they put the red wire (194) as it should be. They spliced 938 black that was to plugged in the 938 left male spade into 14678, literally cut the wire down the middle and BENT the female spade into and around the wire and put tape around it.
This wiring stuff is hard. But once I get my new relay hopefully all I need it to tape up the cut wire and hook it all up right. I assume they spliced wires because they did not want to bother with a new relay once that male space broke off???
The 14303 on the diagram appears to be an engine to body ground. I do not have that wire. Is that important?
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The 14303 on the diagram appears to be an engine to body ground. I do not have that wire. Is that important?
Yes, it's very important. If you don't have one install one. It doesn't have to go where the diagram shows as long as it goes from the engine to somewhere on the firewall.

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