This will take you to the main site where there is history, technical information and other information on these cars.
This takes you back to the main page of the forums.
This is the control panel to change your password, information and preferences on this message board.
Click here if your lost your password or need to register on this message board. You must be a registered user to post. Registration is free.
Search this board for information you need.
Click here to buy cool Squarebirds mechandise.
Click here to support For $20 annually receive 20mBytes webspace, a Squarebirds e-mail address and member's icon on the message board.
Old 02-16-2012, 04:03 AM
Mickfly70's Avatar
Mickfly70 Mickfly70 is offline
Join Date: Oct 20 2010
Posts: 81
Mickfly70 is on a distinguished road
Default Washer system and brakes

Hi all. Attached is a photo of engine bay and what I believe is some sort of vacuum assist brake system. My tbird has a air con (removed for maintenence) but I'm not quite sure what this is as the manual shows 2 other brake systems. I replaced the brake M/C and wheel cylinders and bled the brakes but they still feel spongy. I will bleed them a couple of more times as per other posts.

So what is it?

Other question is that the tbird didn't come with any windscreen washer system. I was lucky enough to buy a red washer bag and vacuum pump and switch off a member (thanks Rick). But I'm not sure where it should go. All photos that I have seen are right where this brake assist thing is. Also the left panel where the switch should have been installed has no hole. i.e. I don't think it ever had a washer system in place. Would this be true?

Bonus question. I added data plate photo. Anyone see a discrepency in 3rd photo. I think I know this answer. I'll post my answer in a day or so.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_1536.jpg (415.3 KB, 79 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1535.jpg (428.5 KB, 79 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1519.jpg (400.5 KB, 81 views)
Mick Egan Vancouver Island Canada
60 Tbird

Last edited by Mickfly70 : 02-16-2012 at 04:07 AM.
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 06:46 AM
redstangbob redstangbob is offline
Join Date: Feb 18 2011
Posts: 217
redstangbob is on a distinguished road

I would have thought the 3066th car would have been built earlier than Sept 25. JMO Bob C
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 08:22 AM
fomoco59's Avatar
fomoco59 fomoco59 is offline
Join Date: Jun 10 2005
Posts: 732
fomoco59 is on a distinguished road

N = Diamond Blue

Mike Lemmon
'59 Raven Black Hardtop
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 10:10 AM
jopizz's Avatar
jopizz jopizz is offline
Excellent Auto Mechanic for over 40 years.
Join Date: Nov 23 2009
Posts: 5,682
jopizz is on a distinguished road

That power booster is not factory if that's what it is. I can't see what purpose it serves as it's not connected to the master cylinder. There's supposed to be a vacuum tank under the fender. The way that's hooked up it looks like it's replacing that tank. If the tank is still under the fender and functional you can probably get rid of that eye sore. All air conditioned cars had the Kelsey Hayes booster under the dash. I would look under there and see if it's still there. You're correct in that the washer bag should be where the booster is.
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 03:48 PM
Mickfly70's Avatar
Mickfly70 Mickfly70 is offline
Join Date: Oct 20 2010
Posts: 81
Mickfly70 is on a distinguished road

Well what a response. Thanks.

I will take you up on the offer to register this tbird, thanks Ray.

As for the data plate. The inconsistency that I was thinking of was that the "N" stood for Diamond blue as Mike correctly mentioned. There was a bit of white on the top right plate that would indicate a post production paint job. (you guys are good) They must have done a fairly thorough job of painting it white 30 odd years ago as even the fire wall is white. There are flakes of paint around the body that indicate that there was a light blue colour before. Only yesterday did I find a light blue spot behind some bullnose trim next to where your left knee would be in the drivers side.

Anyway, the booster is actually connected to the master cylinder. On the photo if you look at the far left (front of car) a line does go back from a brake switch to the MC. And the vacuum from the booster is connected to the reservoir under the left fender. Under the dash on the brake pedal there is no pedal assist power brake unit as per the manual. The eccentric adjusting lever is the same as the "power brakes-units with air condition" (10-16 part 10-3 of the manual) but the pedal doesn't have the pedal trigger.

Sooo does everyone think that its an after market booster. If so do you think its worth taking it off and run the standard brakes with no booster and place the washer bag there?

Thanks again for members input. I fine the history of these birds fascinating.
Mick Egan Vancouver Island Canada
60 Tbird
Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2012, 04:15 PM
GTE427 GTE427 is offline
Join Date: Oct 9 2007
Posts: 598
GTE427 is on a distinguished road

Martin aka 60 T-Bird had a similar aftermarket booster.

Believe he removed it and installed a new generation Booster
1959 J Convertible
1960 J Hardtop
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:33 PM.

Driving, racing or working on cars can be hazardous. The procedures and advice on this website including the message board are opinion only. and its webmasters and contributors do not guarantee the correctness of the advice and procedures. The and its webmasters assume no liability for any damage, fines, punishment, injury or death resulting from following these procedures or advice. If you do not have the skills or tools to repair your car, please consult a professional. By using this site you agree to hold harmless the, its authors and its webmasters from any resulting claim and costs that may occur from using the information found on this site.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Any submissions to this site and any post on this site becomes property of . The webmasters reserve the right to edit and modify any submissions to this site. All material on this is site is copyrighted by the Reproduction by any means other than for personal use is strictly prohibited. Permission to use material on this site can be obtained by contacting the webmasters. Copyright 2002-2016 by